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05-23-2021, 10:35 PM | #21 |
Cobra Viper
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I feel like making vintage style joes is a land mine. Every mother fucker and their cousin is going to be bitching and whining about how "its not the same plastic" or "wrong paint apps" or "the weapons suck" or "they just suck". It would be a way way better use of resources to make a different line up. Maybe 1:1 black series (sculpt/detail) quality representations of the vintage joes in a realistic format.
New O-ring Joes is a terrible idea. EDIT: I love O-ring as much as the next guy, but O-ring would be a stagnate market. No one besides a few of the old fans like those who reside on this site would buy them. The rest of the Action figure collector market would probably not touch them. With offerings like Marauders, Joy Toy, and so many others. The low detail, completely nostalgia based O-rings would have a hard time selling. I said something similar a year ago. I was one of the initial Classified haters, but now its completely won me over and has me buying into the 1/12 scale for the first time. Hell I may never go back to 1/18 if they can fix Classified's issues (big maybe here). O-rings could be a very similar thing, where there seems to be a really small demand in the bigger picture, however to our surprise everyone could love them. But I highly doubt it. The market has changed and O-ring is dead, forever... Last edited by Stormtrooper12; 05-23-2021 at 10:52 PM.. |
05-23-2021, 10:42 PM | #22 |
Iron Grenadier
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Land mine is right. I'd want them to be EXACT to what I had as a kid. Like they did for star wars vintage. I'd also like to get them at zellers in Peterbough in 1985 again. 2nd floor back of the store. They NEVER had snake eyes, ever.
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05-23-2021, 11:57 PM | #23 |
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What if they did that, but got it so EXACT that you still were never able to find Snake Eyes. It could be like a Twilight Zone episode.
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05-24-2021, 12:17 AM | #24 |
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Great, I'm about to go to bed... My dreams will be 100% about trying to get snake eyes. V1 No wolf. And I bet it's one of my friends in grade 5 that got to him first. When I first stumbled across the new classified, I bought snake eyes with the crazies grin ever.
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05-24-2021, 01:52 AM | #25 |
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05-24-2021, 08:19 AM | #26 |
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I feel like making vintage style joes is a land mine. Every mother fucker and their cousin is going to be bitching and whining about how "its not the same plastic" or "wrong paint apps" or "the weapons suck" or "they just suck". It would be a way way better use of resources to make a different line up. Maybe 1:1 black series (sculpt/detail) quality representations of the vintage joes in a realistic format.
New O-ring Joes is a terrible idea. EDIT: I love O-ring as much as the next guy, but O-ring would be a stagnate market. No one besides a few of the old fans like those who reside on this site would buy them. The rest of the Action figure collector market would probably not touch them. With offerings like Marauders, Joy Toy, and so many others. The low detail, completely nostalgia based O-rings would have a hard time selling. I said something similar a year ago. I was one of the initial Classified haters, but now its completely won me over and has me buying into the 1/12 scale for the first time. Hell I may never go back to 1/18 if they can fix Classified's issues (big maybe here). O-rings could be a very similar thing, where there seems to be a really small demand in the bigger picture, however to our surprise everyone could love them. But I highly doubt it. The market has changed and O-ring is dead, forever... |
05-24-2021, 08:47 AM | #27 |
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Most people like ME figures, ditching it would be shooting themselves in the leg. People like higher detail, more accessories, more articulation, etc that ME offers. The only thing vintage offers above ME is maybe durability, and nostalgia. The only real market of buyers for o-ring repros would be 80s kids, and a few others here and there. And as CRN1993 is saying you would want them to be exact replicas. And even if they were exact replics people would still complain because the memories they had as a kid do not match what they are experiencing now. No matter how good the figures could be people will complain, and the small crowd interested in o-rings would be very hard to please I genuinely feel that making o-rings could be one of the worst use of recourses by Hasbro at this point. |
05-24-2021, 10:56 AM | #28 |
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I feel like making vintage style joes is a land mine. Every mother fucker and their cousin is going to be bitching and whining about how "its not the same plastic" or "wrong paint apps" or "the weapons suck" or "they just suck". It would be a way way better use of resources to make a different line up. Maybe 1:1 black series (sculpt/detail) quality representations of the vintage joes in a realistic format.
New O-ring Joes is a terrible idea. EDIT: I love O-ring as much as the next guy, but O-ring would be a stagnate market. No one besides a few of the old fans like those who reside on this site would buy them. The rest of the Action figure collector market would probably not touch them. With offerings like Marauders, Joy Toy, and so many others. The low detail, completely nostalgia based O-rings would have a hard time selling. I said something similar a year ago. I was one of the initial Classified haters, but now its completely won me over and has me buying into the 1/12 scale for the first time. Hell I may never go back to 1/18 if they can fix Classified's issues (big maybe here). O-rings could be a very similar thing, where there seems to be a really small demand in the bigger picture, however to our surprise everyone could love them. But I highly doubt it. The market has changed and O-ring is dead, forever... Alot of people said the same about the Star Wars Retro Collection with the original Kenner style figures and yet it is on it's third wave and is selling out. Now I know GIJoe isn't Star Wars, but "we" are the target audience for remakes of 70's and 80's toys. If Hasbro went with the same approach, one or two waves not more than 10 or so figures a year. They would do well, not great but well enough to keep the line going for a few years. I have friends that hadn't looked at toys since they were kids and then they saw the Star Wars retro collection and they've tracked them all down, gotten two and three sets of them. One to open, one to keep on the card and one to keep sealed in the shipper box. I've been surprised by the people that are suddenly into collecting now. Sure o-ring is dead for mass market releases, but just like with the star wars kenner retro line, a small limited release would succeed and do well. For a few years anyway, until gen X has to start spending all our money on medical bills cause old age is creeping up on us fast. |
05-24-2021, 11:43 AM | #29 |
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05-24-2021, 12:02 PM | #30 |
Cobra Viper
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Alot of people said the same about the Star Wars Retro Collection with the original Kenner style figures and yet it is on it's third wave and is selling out. Now I know GIJoe isn't Star Wars, but "we" are the target audience for remakes of 70's and 80's toys. If Hasbro went with the same approach, one or two waves not more than 10 or so figures a year.
They would do well, not great but well enough to keep the line going for a few years. I have friends that hadn't looked at toys since they were kids and then they saw the Star Wars retro collection and they've tracked them all down, gotten two and three sets of them. One to open, one to keep on the card and one to keep sealed in the shipper box. I've been surprised by the people that are suddenly into collecting now. Sure o-ring is dead for mass market releases, but just like with the star wars kenner retro line, a small limited release would succeed and do well. For a few years anyway, until gen X has to start spending all our money on medical bills cause old age is creeping up on us fast. They make a few figures that sell well but in a low quantity and spend a decent amount on new tooling. Or they focus on more classified figures or distribution issue with the same recourses that could be used for o-rings, and polish their already hot product that has the potential to expand drastically, and make more money the o-rings ever could. Leaving o-rings alone is a way better option then actually making them. Especially now since they have a hot product that can use improvement. And they have a huge 1/12 market and fanbase wanting their figures. |
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