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View Poll Results: Has your opinion of the MAULER changed after reading aobut the real one? | |||
Yes, Favorable | 84 | 57.53% | |
No | 37 | 25.34% | |
Yes, Unfavorable | 2 | 1.37% | |
Don't care. | 23 | 15.75% | |
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03-14-2009, 03:32 PM | #41 |
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Issues asside, it's still a way better choice for escorting convoys. Any road to small for an 18-wheeler won't be an issue for this. Glad to see the army is finally getting them in appreciable numbers since I saw the story. I've read horror stories of what IEDs and mines do to hummers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo...tected_vehicle) The Buffalo is a good vehicle, just very large. Same issues as outlined above.
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03-14-2009, 04:04 PM | #42 |
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Iraqi's running away doesn't give an accurate measure of the craft's ability to fight. They ran away on the ground and in the skies because they didn't think their leader was worth dying for.
Mig-29s are a cold war technology as well, and they have been continuously upgraded since then by Russia, albeit in low numbers, but they are formidable fighters. Munitions have vastly improved since that time too. For a better reading on how they perform, you may want to look at how the Indian Air Force fares with them. As mentioned, the skill or motivations of the pilots have no bearing on the quality of the aircraft. Iraqi pilots were smart not to fight. No matter what, if they fought while the US had air supremacy, they were dead. Soviet doctrine (adopted by most of the countries sporting Russian equipment) relied heavily on ground control and ground radar for directing fighters against air threats (as opposed to the AWACS system used by NATO countries). By the time the surviving Iraqi MiGs got into the air, pretty much all their ground radar had been decimated. They were blind against a superior force. It was tactics more than the aircraft that were flawed. |
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03-15-2009, 12:32 AM | #43 |
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MiG-29s are generally considered on par with the F/A-18A-C Hornets, by most avaition experts and (Blue Angels) Hornet pilots that have flown them.
As mentioned, the skill or motivations of the pilots have no bearing on the quality of the aircraft. Iraqi pilots were smart not to fight. No matter what, if they fought while the US had air supremacy, they were dead. Soviet doctrine (adopted by most of the countries sporting Russian equipment) relied heavily on ground control and ground radar for directing fighters against air threats (as opposed to the AWACS system used by NATO countries). By the time the surviving Iraqi MiGs got into the air, pretty much all their ground radar had been decimated. They were blind against a superior force. It was tactics more than the aircraft that were flawed. Our superior birds, and pilot training, combined with our tactics has won every time. Not to mention the fact that we have Russian birds in our posession for training purposes State side. We also have many Rusian Tanks, and Hind Attack Helicopters confiscated from the gulf wars. We train with and against REAL Russian equipment all the time.
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03-15-2009, 12:43 AM | #44 |
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You hit it from the top down. That kills an American tank instantly, unfortunately everyone inside too. You hit the magazine or the engine. Part of why urban warfare is dangerous.
You'll never kill it from the ground unless you have a mine or "IED." The best you can hope for is halting it by destroying a tread or two, but that will only slow it down for an hour or so. We also have some pro-active defense options for top attacks... Now I don't know if they are using those new defenses in the field, but then again I'm not in charge. LOL Still I agree our military could REALLY use some air-transportable medium armor! I think its long overdue. A vehicle like the MAULER would be almost perfect. I has a good gun, decent armor, great speed, and low observability, due to the small turret!
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03-15-2009, 09:07 AM | #45 |
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Factor in the fact that nobody has anything truly comparable to the Air Force F-22, and Our Navy's ability to show up with a full air wing/carrier battle group on your doorstep within 24 hours and its game set match!
Our superior birds, and pilot training, combined with our tactics has won every time. The Third Reich had that same hubris when it opened the Ostfront and the Soviets did likewise when they blundered into Afghanistan, both with their superior training and equipment. |
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03-15-2009, 09:54 AM | #46 |
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That is where countries like Russia completely outshine us. Russia moves FAST when they attack because of their huge list of air drop capable vehicles. The conflict in Georgia surprised everyone with how fast and swiftly Russia destroyed an equally equipped and trained force.
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03-15-2009, 04:36 PM | #47 |
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The Nazis GREATLY underestimated Russias capacity to build overwhelming numbers of tanks by moving their factories back from the front lines. They also foolishly commited to war on two fronts, without securing their flanks. On the other hand Russia was also willing to pay ANY price in casualties to achieve victory. There is no official record of their losses, but the estimates run into the millions! There is also little doubt that Russia would have pulled out of Afghanistan without the CIA providing Heat seeking missle to the Muja Hadin. Untill that point, Russian attack helicopters were laying waste to the opposition.
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I think that's Russia's biggest edge. They're willing to take the loses.
The American public, in general, is not. It's only a matter of time before the Russians get back up to speed. Think what you like, but they WILL find a counter to our slick and expensive Raptor. |
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03-15-2009, 06:18 PM | #49 |
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I think that's Russia's biggest edge. They're willing to take the loses.
The American public, in general, is not. It's only a matter of time before the Russians get back up to speed. Think what you like, but they WILL find a counter to our slick and expensive Raptor. The F-22 and F-35 are only what has most recently been declasified. We are on the verge of deploying 100s of small, cheap unmanned aircraft that can massively augment our striking power, or serve as effective decoys. Don't forget, the Joint Strike Fighter is only around the corner, pluss our allies have the Eurofighter Typhoon already deployed. France has a nuclear Carrier now too, with the latest generation air wing onboard.
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03-15-2009, 06:24 PM | #50 |
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i'm more confident they can come up with a much cheaper low tech response that will be effective than our ability to produce a counter response either techincal or low tech. historically, we've gotten as asses handed to us buy forces employing low tech means. why we've wandered from a philosophy that contributed to winning our own independence, i have no idea.
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