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12-07-2010, 01:33 AM | #111 |
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yes, but with Nike it is either to jettison old overstock/last season products that mass retailers or specialty stores don't want or is product made cheaper for the cheaper market.
new toys made for mass retailers is not the same thing. it reveals new product that mass retailers simply don't want. this is all the fault of Hasbro. ROC vehicles were overpriced at $24.99 and didn't sell well, Hasbro admitted that ROC didn't sell well at the higher price points, and then kept the higher price points. it is utterly ridiculous. not that that may have mattered considering POC hasn't captured any new customers anyways despite how great it is. |
12-07-2010, 01:34 AM | #112 |
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No kidding. Everybody wants to get cute about it, but it's not like we're saying death of the line because there are too many Destros on the pegs at Target. Seeing new product like this at a place like Ross is extremely suspicious and you guys who are saying it's not are either indulging in wishful thinking or playing the role of contrarian or both.
I'm not going to say toy companies lie, because they're just toys, so who gives a shit. But we're talking about corporations here. I mean, did you not see "Duplicity?" so you're implying what exactly? if we are not getting POC as put forth by Hasbro next year... are you saying we won't be getting gi Joe at all? so no reveals at toyfair? empty display cases at joecon? I mean you can't be insinuating that they'd take a big chance on renegades if poc is doing as poorly as everyone is suggesting... the sequel isn't even up on imdb so i doubt that's the reveal at fair or con. 30th anniversary? I'm not sure why all of a sudden everything hasbro said in this last round of the Q&As has been reduced to being "lies.". Could GI Joe be in trouble? of course. but it's one or the other... it seems like you're saying we are going to be devoid of product for a very long time... I mean it can't be both... right? poc could be doing somewhat poorly and that could very well be why it's hit discount... but that could just be their solution for this chunk of product. IF that's the case at all. who knows... maybe the success of the Hub (ratings etc) has made them want to make room for Renegades toys. maybe Hasbro has seen all the discount store threads and figured they might as well make stuff available everywhere. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just trying to figure out why everyone is getting all doomy when there's still two waves coming that everyone seems pretty excited about and could very well make up for any poc wave 2 short comings.
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12-07-2010, 01:35 AM | #113 |
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Not looking too good for a new Flagg. LOL.
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12-07-2010, 01:39 AM | #114 |
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I'm just wondering if GI Joe may be going back to a DTC format. Maybe, maybe not. Only time will tell
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12-07-2010, 01:42 AM | #115 |
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imagine a new flagg at ross for $100!
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12-07-2010, 01:45 AM | #116 |
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they'd have to sell it at HTS prices with really consumer-friendly shipping. like fairly combining shipping etc. I mean they'd REALLY have to go about it in the right way or the nerd rage would be well into the red, right out the gate.
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12-07-2010, 01:50 AM | #117 |
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I think the vehicles and Mechs are the problem... I wouldn't worry about the figures... I really believe stores will always be willing to carry the figures.
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My theory on the ROSS PoC vehicles is that being this is a revision case... maybe the major retailers said we don't want revision cases with the same vehicles that are already clogging our shelves, so Hasbro went immediately to discount stores to unload them instead of waiting 6 months to do it.
Before I hear about the black HISS being in the case no store would care or listen to Hasbro about a different color tank in the same packaging. But I care so sell me a black HISS already |
12-07-2010, 02:00 AM | #118 |
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lol.
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12-07-2010, 02:02 AM | #119 |
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dtc with fair pricing would satisfy nerds. i wonder if wed still have scalpers, errr stalking toy resellers...
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12-07-2010, 02:09 AM | #120 |
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