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09-07-2009, 11:21 PM | #181 |
Crimson Guard
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Some modern era fans who only collect moc want the cards and the figure designs to be classic. I really don't care about the packaging as long as the figures are classic in design.However I don't care for the new style filecards. They suck. The older cards told you more about the character. I am happy with the Poc line because the figures have color again. Most of the Roc line is plain. It's gray and black and boring. A few of the Roc figures are ok but most of them do little for me. I think Hasbro could have made Roc look more like the 80's line only updated. I think Poc is a good example of how Roc should have been done. I think Poc is great because we get to see new concepts and new characters with a more vintage feel to them. This is what made the Arah line great. New Characters and vehicles every year. They should do this again with Poc but they need to mix in figures from the Arah line that have yet to be updated.
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09-07-2009, 11:43 PM | #182 |
Spartan F5 Viper
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sparta
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Well heres a side that has died that I can not switch over to ROC carded figures to collect MOC. I have a ton of the 25th MEs still carded on my walls due to the totally vintage card art and have a cork board of all thier files cards blazing in thier glory since they look so awesome. The ROC card art for the image of the character are way better, I give them that, but the over all package design and the TERRIBLE file cards (all of the cobra focres all want the same weapon as well as the joes? Comon WTF wheres the creativity). And also the loss of the Comic books I was really starting to enjoy those and they gave way to plain old stupid walmart elusives with stickers? A lot died with the ME/25th line and yes ROC is the root cause as well as the segway into the Persuit of Cobra. This also isolates the possibility of Reoslute ever coming back to more than just a hand out 5 pack here ya go now go away treatment.
I am sure the new cartoon to come will be based on the verse left in the wake of ROC and will be GI JOE: Chasing cobra around the four climate zones of the world: Desert, Urban, Jungle and Arctic nd be all anime like Sigma 6. They will of course throw in a few vintage character names on rehashed and reapinted kitbashed or strait out 25th/ME reapints with ROC logos on thier uniforms like they are already doing but for all intense and purposes 25th/ME is long gone so I guess we either keep sticking with it or quit giving Hasbro the funds to continue straying away from those great things they brought us before ROC came out. In a way it is nice to not have to have 2 figures of every character but alas, there were so many more figures they could have just carded to finish up the 83-90 erras before they let it all fall apart into Ecco Warriors to pre-25th/ME. I could die a happy collector at that point instead of trying to focre my way through the small hand outs that are left if they even do a proper single card of Techno-viper, Sci-fi, Low-light, Rock-viper, Night-viper (not that odd 2010 ROC version, cool however but not the original), Dr. Mindbender, Zap, Leatherneck, Dialtone etc etc etc. My wall is bare with spots for those figures from the "collect them all" card arts on the back of the figures cards. So many I have not even mentioned were left out but basterdized into the ROC verse for good :( Oh well I guess that is just how it goes and no more MOC collecting for me.
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09-08-2009, 12:12 AM | #183 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Nov 2008
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I like 25th packaging, but i keep most of my figures loose anyway and totally don't care if classic figures are in roc packaging or not. I got kick ass classic heavy metal and thunder on my shelves them being roc packaging couldn't mean less to me. Or not having a proper bio or whatever i throw that crap away.
Like i've said in the past i love the 25th line, but it's run it's course it's almost totally out of steam in terms of characters. Theres some characters we need still, but it's not enough to work at being a full blown line. I'm fine with having classic characters sprinkled here and there. I think even if the movie never existed we would still see the 25th cards dropped and replaced by a new theme anyway. It's how the toy industry works, it's what hasbro's always done with joes since 97, it's what they've done with star wars, it's what they've done with transformers. I'd be totally willing to bet if we hadn't gotten the movie we woulda still seen something just like poc, only minus movie actors likenesses. And again after a couple years POC will be phased out for a new theme. |
09-08-2009, 12:17 AM | #184 |
#voteblackjack
Join Date: Sep 2008
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RoC to PoC to Sequal to transition line to 3rd Movie to longterm "theme"
And in between the major movie tie-ins (the sequal and 3rd movie) will be the Joe Classic line, Resolute or whatever else Hasbro does: line based on IDW, line based on new cartoon (if it's not a RoC based cartoon), etc..
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