[AWOL]

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Originally Posted by SmokeBellew

There were also non-o-ring, "T-crotch" figures during the Joe vs.Cobra "New Sculpt" era, but that didn't last long.

What were they thinking. There were also those 5 POA vehicle-drivers in the Retaliation line.

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Originally Posted by wmichben

I never considered the broken thumbs or crotches that big of a deal.

None of my figures' thumbs broke when I was a kid. The only problem I experienced was the loosening of joints, and even that was rare.

[wmichben]

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Originally Posted by AWOL

None of my figures' thumbs broke when I was a kid. The only problem I experienced was the loosening of joints, and even that was rare.

I've inherited quite a few loose joint figures from EBay purchases but a lot of my own childhood figures still have great joints. So I'm not sure what others did that caused their figures to get so loose. I played with mine A LOT but maybe I didn't bend their knees or swing their arms around as much? No idea. Maybe some people's figures experienced numerous temperature fluctuations and mine didn't.

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by SmokeBellew

...Shit, I'm actually excited to get a complete and non-yellowed Storm Shadow for that price. Snakes too. I guess some are maybe just bored with vintage o-ring or already spent way too much money on vintage versions of these figures.

But..... you've been done with toys for two years now!!!

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Originally Posted by wmichben

I never considered the broken thumbs or crotches that big of a deal. I have over five hundred o-ring figures and maybe three of them have broken thumbs? Of the three, two of them are mail-order Quick Kicks. As for broken crotches: Beach Head, neon Red Ninja, Red Star and some beater OG13 figures I bought for cheap. Maybe I am just lucky.

But yeah, some of the early 2000s rereleases/repaints had more flexible hands already so that was good.

As for my Lanard Corps figures, those guys were lucky if they still had their thumbs after two weeks. Ha. I always made them vehicle drivers or passengers since they couldn't hold onto weapons anymore.

99% of my experience with breaks was definitely during childhood. I actually learned how to avoid thumb breakage during the summer of '92, specifically with the '91 Sci-Fi. I used to carry my Joes to the "battlefield" in a large clear plastic gallon sized candy jar. One day I left them outside in the jar while I went in for lunch, and returned to find all of them had softened in the heat. I had a lot of fun with the malleable hands, flattening the palms, etc.

As an adult, I soften them in near boiling water before gearing them up if there's even the slightest concern that the figure may break.
This also works for the original '82s which are so notoriously brittle now.

Lanard? My parents bought them for me exactly once, they were broken within hours.
LANARD! Rubbish KOs since the 80's!!!®

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Originally Posted by AWOL

What were they thinking. There were also those 5 POA vehicle-drivers in the Retaliation line.

They were thinking 1/4 penny saved is 1/4 penny earned.

[AWOL]

The o-ring design evolved a bit in the early years. In '83 they introduced the swivel-arm, then in '85 the neck-ball.

A further improvement would be the ability to swap heads more easily.

[BeachheadMatt]

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Originally Posted by Katana78

The 4” ME figures are a bit middle ground trying to be Jack of all trades to me, their not as nostalgic as the o-ring, don’t work all the well with vintage vehicles, look weirdly proportioned to me......

I feel like this is the first time I've heard this on these boards, and feel the same way. The ME/New Sculpt Joe figures DO look oddly proportioned to me. Heads are too small, legs are waaayyy too long, waists too tiny (especially in this day and age).

[BeachheadMatt]

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Originally Posted by SmokeBellew

There were also non-o-ring, "T-crotch" figures during the Joe vs.Cobra "New Sculpt" era, but that didn't last long.

Anyway, I think it's weird people are balking at the price of this set. Shit, I'm actually excited to get a complete and non-yellowed Storm Shadow for that price. Snakes too. I guess some are maybe just bored with vintage o-ring or already spent way too much money on vintage versions of these figures.

Agreed. A Chineese Storm Shadow MOC will run you $100, easy. A black major custom solid white Storm Shadow costs about $50 loose, $100+ Carded. An actual Vintage MOC Storm Shadow...child please. So people gasping at $20/each for repros of two of the most sought after action figures of all time? Give me a break.



I pre-ordered 2. These sets will be going for $80+ easy on eBay when released, just watch.

[BeachheadMatt]

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Originally Posted by wmichben

As for my Lanard Corps figures, those guys were lucky if they still had their thumbs after two weeks. Ha. I always made them vehicle drivers or passengers since they couldn't hold onto weapons anymore.

Ha, so true.

[BeachheadMatt]

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Originally Posted by Sataninjaku

But..... you've been done with toys for two years now!!!

Haha. He's got you there, Smoke.

[BOBthebuilder]

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Originally Posted by BeachheadMatt

Agreed. A Chineese Storm Shadow MOC will run you $100, easy. A black major custom solid white Storm Shadow costs about $50 loose, $100+ Carded. An actual Vintage MOC Storm Shadow...child please. So people gasping at $20/each for repros of two of the most sought after action figures of all time? Give me a break.



I pre-ordered 2. These sets will be going for $80+ easy on eBay when released, just watch.

while i don't disagree with anything you said cause you're very spot on. I do still have a bad taste in my mouth paying $40 for newly manufactured o-ring joes. I have a feeling though the fancy packaging has something to do with it as well. their pudgy pig power rangers hasbro pulse variant has fancy packaging and extra accessories and is about $20ish more expensive than the target release. so i hope general retail (assuming we get general retail) for an o-ring is around the $12 to $14 range and not $20 a pop.

[Bac]

I can see general retail in the $14 range. The question is whether these new Joes will ever be available outside of Pulse. I guess that partly depends on how well the SE/SS and Skystriker perform.

Hasbro could also have a non-compete with Super7's ReAction line outside of Pulse given the size/packaging similarities, as unlikely as that would be.