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11-18-2012, 01:40 AM | #131 |
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This seems more likely. I don't have the time but once I get back to the states I will have the space. I'm more likely to take the plans or instructions to a carpenter and have them build if for me. In the end this may even be cheaper than buying it at retail. This looks like an easy job for a carpenter and you could even customize it to fit your needs.
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11-18-2012, 03:05 AM | #132 |
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1.Irrelevant. Lots of people don't have Joe HQs, Terrordromes, Vintage Grayskulls or dozens of other big items from years' past. The issue is if there are enough people NOW willing to fork out big bucks for one.
2. Possibly. But "cheaper" doesn't mean "affordable". I'm still very much of the opinion that a Flagg, with its low production run, extensive tooling needs, materials and shipping costs, is a $500+ item easy. Fans are still bitching about Club sets, and those don't have the footprint of a piece of furniture. 3. $150 may be high, but even YOUR estimate is about $100. ON top of the cost of the piece itself (making the Flagg at least a $600 investment) 4. I've had my share of playsets (including a second hand Grayskull back in the day), but they generally didn't take up 7 feet of space. For the amount of money it would take and how much space it takes, I find the Flagg to be little more than a big plastic slab. For half a grand, I expect something either stupidly rare or "blow your balls off" awesome. The Flagg, as it exists and assuming a minor update as the goal of such an attempt, just doesn't do that. A retooled Terrordrome or Joe HQ I would drop $100 on. And adding more features (like removable deck elements with interior play areas) would require more design, more tools, more plastic and ultimately, more money for the product. 5. In that scenario, I see two things happening: -Preorder succeeds, and there was much rejoicing. Funding the Flagg would prove there to be a significant "collector segment" to this little toyline and open up possibilities in the future for things like remade classic vehicles like the Mauler, or more playsets like the Terrordrome or Joe HQ. -Preorder fails and fans rage on the boards butthurt there weren't enough to support the thing. And don't forget the endless conspiracy theories that Hasbro purposely made efforts to make the effort fail and excuses of how it would have succeeded if Hasbro had shown a final product (I've seen several MOTU fans cite this as a reason for NOT preordering), made it available sooner, should have made it cheaper, etc, etc. Not crazy, just overly optimistic :p Again I've just not seen the evidence to say that Joe fans would support this, especially once many actually see how much the damn thing will cost. Further, HASBRO hasn't been given much to base any faith on the Joe brand and collectors over the past 7 years or so. That said, I fully expect the Grayskull thing to be brought up a LOT over the next year at various cons. On the one hand, I'd like Hasbro to offer up a Flagg just to prove it isn't practical. On the other, I'd rather see Hasbro "build up" to that stuff by offering things like the Mauler or Night Raven or TTBP just to maybe give the concept some merit. 4. agree with you on this point....ppl are gonna expect major upgrades for a $250-500 TOY. 5. lol, couldnt agree more. In the end, maybe hasbro would have to start with something smaller. I for one hope at least hasbro considers a pre-order system for big ticket items. even if not for the USS FLAGG try it on a new GI JOE HQ or other large playsets or vehicles. |
11-18-2012, 03:22 AM | #133 |
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I wish we still had the Hasbro Q&A. Then we could ask them if the success of the Mattel Castle Greyskull pre-order has them rethinking the potential of a DTC GI Joe play set?
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11-18-2012, 03:27 AM | #134 |
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I wouldn't buy a re-issued original Flagg or Terrordrome, just like I wouldn't have bought a re-issued original Grayskull. The thing that got me to order a Castle was that they updated it to appear to my adult self as the original toy appeared to my 6-year-old self.
I don't think they could have done that wiith the intention of making Castle Grayskull for retail. That's the difference between MOTUC and anything Hasbro has done with GI Joe -- Hasbro is beholden to the pressures of making items that are affordable and will sell in volume and will be able to steal attention from other toys on the aisle. That's why we lose out on articulation and paint and accessories and get dumbass spring-loaded contraptions and neon color schemes. If those weren't concerns for Hasbro, we'd be getting stuff even nicer than the POC days by now. And the delay of a crappy movie wouldn't have set them back almost a year. It's a double-edged sword, though. I don't subscribe to MOTUC, because the line is polluted by undesirable Princess of Power, New Adventures, and Filmation-inspired figures, as well as a lot of the goofier vintage designs from the waning years of the line. I wouldn't want to see a premium GI Joe line that was that beholden to nostalgia and the hardest of the hardcore fans. In face, that would be my nightmare. |
11-18-2012, 05:55 AM | #135 |
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I can come across as jerk sometimes in posts here, and since Steevy and myself have had a recent disagreement, I thought I'd take an opportunity to extend an olive branch.
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I don't have a Joe HQ or Terrordrome, and unless I found a mint complete one for a REALLY good price, I have no desire to own one because of their relative simplicity. To design something in keeping with POC standards would put the price at a minimum of $300, with a more realistic price of $5-700. I just don't see it happening for that alone, and when you add this: Quote:
Originally Posted by Steevy Maximus
2. Possibly. But "cheaper" doesn't mean "affordable". I'm still very much of the opinion that a Flagg, with its low production run, extensive tooling needs, materials and shipping costs, is a $500+ item easy. Fans are still bitching about Club sets, and those don't have the footprint of a piece of furniture.
... 4. I've had my share of playsets (including a second hand Grayskull back in the day), but they generally didn't take up 7 feet of space. For the amount of money it would take and how much space it takes, I find the Flagg to be little more than a big plastic slab. For half a grand, I expect something either stupidly rare or "blow your balls off" awesome. The Flagg, as it exists and assuming a minor update as the goal of such an attempt, just doesn't do that. A retooled Terrordrome or Joe HQ I would drop $100 on. And adding more features (like removable deck elements with interior play areas) would require more design, more tools, more plastic and ultimately, more money for the product. The TD is at least a complete playset, but it's so big with so many essentially empty compartments, it has always looked half done in a different way to me. Joe HQ was the best of three IMO, but I just plain don't like it. My Joes fight, not kick back with REMF's. Quote:
Originally Posted by Steevy Maximus
5. In that scenario, I see two things happening:
-Preorder succeeds, and there was much rejoicing. Funding the Flagg would prove there to be a significant "collector segment" to this little toyline and open up possibilities in the future for things like remade classic vehicles like the Mauler, or more playsets like the Terrordrome or Joe HQ. -Preorder fails and fans rage on the boards butthurt there weren't enough to support the thing. And don't forget the endless conspiracy theories that Hasbro purposely made efforts to make the effort fail and excuses of how it would have succeeded if Hasbro had shown a final product (I've seen several MOTU fans cite this as a reason for NOT preordering), made it available sooner, should have made it cheaper, etc, etc. Quote:
Originally Posted by Steevy Maximus
Again I've just not seen the evidence to say that Joe fans would support this, especially once many actually see how much the damn thing will cost. Further, HASBRO hasn't been given much to base any faith on the Joe brand and collectors over the past 7 years or so.
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I'd rather see Hasbro "build up" to that stuff by offering things like the Mauler or Night Raven or TTBP just to maybe give the concept some merit.
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11-18-2012, 08:19 PM | #136 |
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Steevy's 100% on the money with all this.
And I seem to recall Hasbro saying at one point that a full-fledged Flagg reproduction would end up having a retail price that would be close enough to a loose/complete Flagg on the secondary market that it simply wouldn't make sense to produce. Don't quote me on that though...it's been a long time and I might be mixing it up with some other item. |
11-18-2012, 08:49 PM | #137 |
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Steevy's 100% on the money with all this.
And I seem to recall Hasbro saying at one point that a full-fledged Flagg reproduction would end up having a retail price that would be close enough to a loose/complete Flagg on the secondary market that it simply wouldn't make sense to produce. Don't quote me on that though...it's been a long time and I might be mixing it up with some other item.
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11-18-2012, 09:17 PM | #138 |
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It'd be cool to get a new TD. I never had an old one. Wanted one as a kid. Don't really want one now, but it'd be cool to see it. I don't think we will ever get a new one, though.
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11-19-2012, 12:19 AM | #139 |
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I'm new to this forum but I must say that everyone here sounds like they are collectors of some sort. I grew up playing with Gi Joe and if it wasn't for my pecker head brother I would still have the terrordrome and uss Flagg that I acquired as a kid. Now that I have a son of my own, who has also developed a healthy taste for playing with Gi Joe, I would gladly hand over 300-600 dollars for either item if they were new. All parents look for that one big ticket item for their children at Christmas and either of these would fit that bill. There is still a market for children out there with parents that are just dumb enough(me included) to spend that kind of money but Hasbro hasn't done a good job marketing these toys. I live in Canada and I don't remember the last time I have seen a Joe toy commercial. Do a YouTube search for old gi joe toys and you will find old commercials that would surely entice any young child into wanting them. If Hasbro is reading this forum(doubt they are) you can add one more to the will buy list.
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11-19-2012, 11:44 AM | #140 |
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I have been reading this thread and finally thought of stepping in with my own opinion. I would not buy a new Terror Drome. I have my vintage one and it is alright for me. I would have no desire to replace my vintage one with a newer updated version. Like i said, that is just my view.
It would have to be different in some way, though. I'm not interested in a straight-up reissue. Different compartments, details - that sort of thing would pique my interest. Only problem is the size. I'm finding it difficult enough to figure out a place for one, let alone two. I love MOTUC, but aside from the price (especially shipping to Canada), I'm not sure I can display that Castle Grayskull anywhere, so what's the point? Quote:
I just read a post complaining about the cost of the new Skystriker at discount stores. Max price he'd pay? $15. FIFTEEN FRIGGIN' DOLLARS for what just might be the best (certainly one of, anyway) and most iconic GI Joe vehicles of all time. Man, even lunch at McDonalds will set you back two thirds of that, these days.
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