[RockinHard]

To counter the thread on the Best Joes made thus far in the 25th line, what do you believe are the worst Joes/Cobras thus far?

Here are mine:

1) Cutter - though he hasn't been released yet, early pictures are pathetic. All Hasbro did was give him the correct color scheme. Didn't even bother to give him a baseball cap. He's Gung-Ho in Cutter's color scheme.

2) Grunt - This figure hardly, if at all, resembles the original character.

3) Short Fuze - again, though he hasn't been released, early pictures are disappointing to me.

4) Ace - This could have been so much better.

5) Buzzer - This figure looks too much like a 're-do' instead of being more true to the classic character.

I would mention the Air Trooper and Para Viper, but I don't have or want them anyway.

[Griff]

wow this is too easy lol
1) comic pack IG destro set.
2)Major Bludd 1st version
3) comic pack Cobra Commander 1st version
4)Shipwreck (he just looks too much like one of the village people)
5)Spirit (what the hell was up with that head)
runners up include Grunt, Zartan, Serpentor and the hiss Diver and AVAC.

[arch2b]

most of the comic pack figures
serpentor for sure

biggest disappointments have been parts of figures vs. the entire thing such as;
diaper torso
roadblock wide grasp hand
cobra commander closed fist
viper forearms/hand position

these features are present on more than one figure and really effect thier posability.

[COBRACOLLECTOR]

Spirit (His head was crazy)

Blue Comicpack Destro (the figure is great hate the color)

Shipwreck (Looks Gayish)

lady jaye (the one with the little hat it just diddnt look like her to me in the face)

thats all i could think of right now

[Syn3sthesia]

I'll only count the ones on hand, not upcoming.

1. Comic pack Duke.
2. Comic pack Cobra Commander
3. Comic pack Destro
4. Comic pack Ace
5. Comic pack Scarlett.

As you can see Im not a comic pack lover...

[hamilcar]

Grunt
Battle Damaged Snake Eyes
Baroness (5-pack version)
Comic Pack Scarlett
Storm Shadow w/ cape

[Griff]

woulda never have guessed lol ;)

[swafus]

1) Serpentor (the only 25th fig. I didn't buy)
2) Shipwreck. I have owned him twice and have made customs both times.
3) Terrible body parts = Roadblocks hands, Dukes forearms, Gung ho arms, Viper arms/ feet, closed fists, destros gimpy hand, Baroness street walker posture, spirit head, etc.
4) Lady Jaye v1.
5) legions storm shadow. Hate this design!

[BigErn]

Well like you said, if we can count figures that aren't out yet but we've seen pics of...

1) Cutter - He has to be one of the worst. It's one thing for us to customize a Cutter using Gung Ho's head, but the fact that Hasbro's releasing a Cutter figure using an existing head just pisses me off, and no I'm not ok with Flash and Breaker's heads being used multiple times either.

2) Flint (wave 1) - I never got over the Duke arms and never sought after a second one to open because of it.

3) Duke - I absolutely hate that head sculpt, he looks too young and happy, Duke's a battle worn soldier at least take that stupid smile off his face. That mid arm articulation is just stupid, yeah I'm looking at you too Storm Shadow and Scarlett!

4) Cobra Commander - I don't know if his chest is too big or everything else is too small, he just does not look right to me, and the fist (along with the few other unusable hands in the line, Roadblock, Destro) is just lame.

5) Serpentor (Arise Serpentor Arise battle pack) - That POS is in no way the classic Serpentor. I could deal with the skirt if everything else had been done right. Where are his scales? He looks like a big oaf wearing tan tights, nice black shoes too that really matches, what the hell is that? This is the biggest let down in the line by far. A chump like Bazooka can get a brand new sculpt but Serpentor can't? Whether you like the guy or not Serpentor has a huge role in GI Joe's history and I'd personnaly like to see an '86' acurate remake.

Now these are all problems that I'm confident will be addressed in the future. As long as the movie does well this line will continue, think Star Wars and Transformers, so I'm irritated with my picks but given time I'm sure we'll see all of our gripes addressed.

[Hoot]

Gung ho, lousy figure can't stand well
Roadblock v1 backpack always falls out, stupid hand
Serpentor, turned a cool figure into crap
Every CC don't hold the gun well in the one good hand it has
Cutter, even though it's not even out it's the laziest figure ever