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10-21-2009, 09:36 PM | #11 |
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No honor to defend, but I liked the movie for what it was, I love most of the toys, but I, like most collectors, have 90% of what I want from it. It is a real shame that they were so grossly overestimated on all fronts.
Bummer...
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10-21-2009, 11:39 PM | #12 |
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We seem to have the same problem in Aussieland, personaly I have yet to see a Ice Saber. I believe the problems are as follows:
It wasn't ACTION FORCE. Australia never had it, but GIJOE, even if it's not a country specific term, screams American, thanks to Veitnam 2, I mean Iraq, Anti-American sentiment is large as well as antimilitary sentiment. Action Force would envoke Action Man, which both the UK and Australia had, would would push it. They ordered too much Wave 1. It was Wolverine again, the retailers overestimated demand. I blame Transformers phenominal success for this personaly. It seems to happen to all the 'toy' movies now. Australia is confimed to get Wave 3, but they only turn up in hobbyshops. The incompetant retailers won't go near it. Because a line that hasn't been here sense the early 00s, that envokes a nation that alot of people have irrational beefs with and a topic that's realy touchy will totaly do well. >_> |
10-21-2009, 11:51 PM | #13 |
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Retailers screwed up by overordering too much of the first couple waves. It's got nothing to do with the quality of the product, they just over anticipated the demand.
Toys are a finite market. There's only so many that are going to sell. Before we "pound the nails in RoCs coffin" lets remember that XMas is coming up and that could have a HUGE impact on sales. All those parents that weren't buying RoC toys yet may just buy come XMas. RoC is a LONG way from being dead, sorry to disappoint anyone.
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10-21-2009, 11:56 PM | #14 |
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Retailers screwed up by overordering too much of the first couple waves. It's got nothing to do with the quality of the product, they just over anticipated the demand.
Toys are a finite market. There's only so many that are going to sell. Before we "pound the nails in RoCs coffin" lets remember that XMas is coming up and that could have a HUGE impact on sales. All those parents that weren't buying RoC toys yet may just buy come XMas. RoC is a LONG way from being dead, sorry to disappoint anyone. Why is it so hard to maintain a positive outlook? GI Joe isn't going anywhere. I think all the anti-ROC fans are just trying to throw in the final "told you so." Guys - it ain't happening. |
10-21-2009, 11:57 PM | #15 |
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Quote:
Retailers screwed up by overordering too much of the first couple waves. It's got nothing to do with the quality of the product, they just over anticipated the demand.
Toys are a finite market. There's only so many that are going to sell. Before we "pound the nails in RoCs coffin" lets remember that XMas is coming up and that could have a HUGE impact on sales. All those parents that weren't buying RoC toys yet may just buy come XMas. RoC is a LONG way from being dead, sorry to disappoint anyone. Quote:
The movie made 300 million worldwide the toys are selling and the DVD hasn't even come out yet. In my opinion the DVD release will boost the toy sales. As Troynos pointed out Christmas should also be good for G.I. Joe toy sales. |
10-22-2009, 12:00 AM | #16 |
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IMO this does not sound good. The part about " the large scale marketing campaign" is rubbish. I only saw three commercials for the movie on TV and never saw or heard of a single advert for the toys or comic. This is one of the main reasons why the toys are rotting on the shelves, along with being £8 ( $12 ) a figure when they came out. I work in Television, notably in the area where we air the commercials (I'm actually paid to watch the commercials) so I see a lot of commercials (on one channel only) That said, I can't tell you how many times someone comes up to me to tell me about this cool new commercial they just saw on TV for the first time ever....yeah, 9 times out of 10 I've seen it 3-4 times a day for two months now. There are also times when a certain commercial is only played on a few channels (This is typically only with local commercials, but some national ones are regional too) So it's very possible that there was a large scale marketing campaign on TV and you missed the majority of it. |
10-22-2009, 12:03 AM | #17 |
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Aye, I don't have super high hopes of these being widely distributed here in Canada either. I'm fully going to order cases for this set.
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10-22-2009, 12:05 AM | #18 |
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I hope the stuff sells down during xmas. If it does not we may not be getting poc figures. I will buy alot more poc stuff because it looks more like GI JOE should. I think Roc was an ok movie. I just hated the way the vipers and alot of the joes looked.
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10-22-2009, 12:05 AM | #19 |
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Here's the kicker if we get a cartoon here based on Pursuit of Cobra that also airs in the U.K., then you can bet your a$$ that you will see the toys there as well
All signs point to the cartoon being PoC related. Why else redesign Beachhead, Recondo, Snowjob, Firefly, etc. |
10-22-2009, 12:07 AM | #20 |
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In my local town, the Wal-Mart is full of the first two waves. They over ordered. Next town down, about 20 minutes away, that store is filled with the first two waves and the Helix/Flash wave. Tons of 'em. Neither store has the 2-packs. The next town down, another 15 minutes from the 2nd store, they have none of the Helix/Flash wave but they have alot of the 2-packs.
The point is that just because it isn't selling in one store, doesn't mean it's not selling in all stores. Different stores order differently. It's kind of funny, the 2nd store is the newest store that just recently opened. Would have expected that one to have the latest stuff but it's got the most of the 3 and no latest waves and no 2-packs.
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