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The main issue I have with them is how they handle bonus items. (like for example if you order 6 Soldiers of Fortune figures from BBTS you get a 7th free ; if you order the same 6 from Kapow you get nothing, the same thing applied to their other waves too and it is fundamentally unfair to do that).
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So while no I don't exactly have "great issues" with them, they do irritate me a bit in a number of tiny ways. They also keep announcing things but are painfully slow to actually release stuff. & restocks don't really happen a lot either (For example Kapow is supposed to be their main UK supplier and their stuff has been sold out for months now - they need more & they are not getting any of the exclusives either - it wouldn't kill them to be selling a werewolf or two as well to Kapow to list !).
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#2342 |
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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I don't want to derail the thread to much, but I will respond as we are still waiting for Gi Joe news.
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Unfortunately, if you have several figures who're gear/accessory packed or a substantial amount of deco, you'll need to shift some of the budget over from another release in the wave to cover it. It's not "cheaping out," it's budgeting the wave accordingly. Sure it sucks because it usually means you'll get a very basic "man in suit" vs. all the other loaded figures in the wave, but that's how it's done. Most everybody does this.
I think I am being more than tolerant with them re-using the same suit a million times.. when it is way more obvious than the undersuit is on an armoured character that you can customise with your own chosen loadouts. I guess I am suggesting there is a "minimum standard" and going under that is very noticeable and perhaps they need to throw in an extra head or an extra gun in when they are not giving you the perception of value the more military themed characters offer more often that not. I'd say the minimum is about here : https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/298855?o=4 or here : https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/253519?o=4 This is also fine too : https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/253518?o=4 as is : https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/250217?o=4 This however looks a bit ungenerous https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/254920?o=4 This is outright insulting https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/251655?o=4 (Especially as we know they are doing a bazillion alternatives of this guy so they are just going to spam repaints - so with that being the case give the guy some lab gear or something to encourage you to buy all the variations to get the whole set.. that sort of thing). But I am OK if most figures are kitted out at about this sort of level https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ils/254977?o=4 That is a fair amount for the price unlike Doctor Caligari who is 'another Dracula' in terms of accessory count in my view - they are hoping you will want the guy so much you will buy him anyway. They unfortunately do not offer the bonus on its own as an option either even though they sell similar sets https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/254967?o=11 There is nothing on the page to overtly say the bonus is "exclusive" it is listed more as a pre-order bonus really for buying the whole set - so in my view it should apply more broadly - this isn't like Japan exclusives - this is (now) an product line that has some small amount of international distribution - so I think it is fair treatment to offer all markets the same deal "buy the set - get the bonus" At least unless they specifically say it is a BBTS only item and will not be offered any other way. To be honest is it quite likely the darn things will show up on Ali Express anyway, just adding to the insult. Value is offered here via repetition or accessory moulds: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/224424?o=11 or here : https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/224421?o=11 Quote:
Exclusives. If those other retailer want to do the same or offer the same incentives for bulk purchases, like BBTS, they'll need to eat into their own profit margins to do so (so long as it meets the minimum price threshold). There's nothing "unfair" about it. Retailers are responsible for their own purchasing incentives, and buy their own exclusives.
I think they idea was partly to encourage people to order the entire set at the 'enhanced crowd funding' stage. If that is all they are for they need to say so really as they are keeping people from making key characters if they hide away heads behind an exclusive that isn't really an exclusive (as like I said I bet all this stuff will be on Ali Express too anyway). I guess you can argue either way about an exclusive like this (being just a repaint) being a good thing 'or not'. https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/291009?o=11 https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/298877?o=11 Is good https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/291008?o=11 Is not so good in terms of value to the consumer. I was thinking of Dracula specifically though as something to challenge as he has no blood stand with the opaque version (for example) where as effects parts are common place in the rest of the line - they had one for him that existed and just didn't include it (for some reason) so it isn't about budgeting for "Making a new mould" they already had the mould. https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...ls/224419?o=11 The reason I think this is a bit silly (and I would say the same is just as true of some Marvel legends figures too) is that what if that is the only one someone buys and isn't impressed - every toyline can potentially be judged not by its strongest release but its weakest one. Quite possibly. I'll ask, they have not said a word about it even though people were mentioning it on their facebook they didn't reply there about it. It is a heck of a disincentive for ordering the set though. If you know you are going to be down an item for doing so from Kapow. |
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