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04-23-2024, 11:37 AM | #11331 |
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Drones with mirrors on them.. problem solved! Now we just need a drone pilot Joe that specifically lines up artillery style shots for the HAL.
Could use Bank Shot for this purpose (RIP). Think of the catch phrases! "I'm about to get HAL up in your business". "take a good look in the mirror, it'll be your last", "trouble with the curve?", "time to reflect on your choices in life" For the record I know I'm lame.. just saying.. sillier things have happened in GI Joe. Bombstrike |
04-23-2024, 11:48 AM | #11332 |
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04-23-2024, 11:57 AM | #11333 |
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Drones with mirrors on them.. problem solved! Now we just need a drone pilot Joe that specifically lines up artillery style shots for the HAL.
Could use Bank Shot for this purpose (RIP). Think of the catch phrases! "I'm about to get HAL up in your business". "take a good look in the mirror, it'll be your last", "trouble with the curve?", "time to reflect on your choices in life" For the record I know I'm lame.. just saying.. sillier things have happened in GI Joe. I was not a popular child.. I am not a popular adult.. lol |
04-23-2024, 12:21 PM | #11334 |
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I think the "silly" aspect is historically artillery cannons or missiles are to hit ground targets. A laser would never come down to hit the ground. Hence, the issue he might have. A laser is better suited for Anti-aircraft or close proximity anti-land vehicle (like a TOW missile) as it needs direct line of sight.
Obviously the HAL wouldn't be used in the same way as, say, an M-109 (or howitzer), but I'm not sure that means it can't be called "artillery"... My only question at this point is: is it still artillery if it doesn't fire a shell? There, I'm not so sure... Anti-aircraft (AA) guns are still called Anti-aircraft artillery (or "AAA"), sometimes... Anyway, my point is, it's only "silly" (if even that) for the sake of an ultra-realistic/real world military discussion, like we're kind of getting at here... not in the GI Joe sense. Whereas I would say, I dunno, something like the Septic Tank is silly in just about any context you can imagine, EVEN as a child's toy!
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04-23-2024, 12:34 PM | #11335 |
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Classic Artillery is Indirect Fire. Like how we shoot basketballs. Launch up, it reaches its peak, it falls, it lands on (in) the target. Lasers don't do that (brilliant mirror strategy notwithstanding). Lasers are direct fire. Like how we shoot bullets. But lasers are even more linear than bullets, which fall due to gravity and get moved by the wind. Laser fire is unaffected by wind and gravity (unless we are talking about the gargantuan gravity of black holes, which would nullify the point of the battle anyway). You COULD consider the HAL to be a HAAL, a Heavy Anti-Air Artillery Laser. But to do any damage, lasers have to be aimed at the target for more than a split second. That is difficult to do when the aircraft is particularly fast or agile. In my head-canon (head cannon?), I leave the word "Laser" out of its title. I know it sounds silly, but I say that HAL stands for Heavy Artillery (Lightweight). And I think of it as a more advanced version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer |
04-23-2024, 12:46 PM | #11336 |
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You are right.
Classic Artillery is Indirect Fire. Like how we shoot basketballs. Launch up, it reaches its peak, it falls, it lands on (in) the target. Lasers don't do that (brilliant mirror strategy notwithstanding). Lasers are direct fire. Like how we shoot bullets. But lasers are even more linear than bullets, which fall due to gravity and get moved by the wind. Laser fire is unaffected by wind and gravity (unless we are talking about the gargantuan gravity of black holes, which would nullify the point of the battle anyway). You COULD consider the HAL to be a HAAL, a Heavy Anti-Air Artillery Laser. But to do any damage, lasers have to be aimed at the target for more than a split second. That is difficult to do when the aircraft is particularly fast or agile. In my head-canon (head cannon?), I leave the word "Laser" out of its title. I know it sounds silly, but I say that HAL stands for Heavy Artillery (Lightweight). And I think of it as a more advanced version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer |
04-23-2024, 12:47 PM | #11337 |
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Just include a mirror with glider pilot Grunt. He can hold it with his legs.
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04-23-2024, 12:53 PM | #11338 |
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Laser don't even seem far fetched in Joe now with Britain about to deploy IRL laser guns in Ukraine.
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04-23-2024, 12:54 PM | #11339 |
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04-23-2024, 01:02 PM | #11340 |
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Hey for anyone collecting Marvel Legends preorders, they just sneaked in a classic silver surfer on amazon for retail price, instant purchase for me, I missed out on the walgreens. Dont know where else in the forum I could put this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DPYYTPZ...hk_typ_imgToDp
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