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Old 11-26-2022, 02:52 PM   #31
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'89 is my favorite as an Elseworlds tale. But he's far from the comic book Batman I grew up with (Neil Adams era). I grew up on West's version in reruns for the live-action, so that's my nostalgic choice.

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I really did like Ledger?s and Phoenix?s Jokers, and what Batman was present or not was forgotten. Those were both (obviously the latter) Joker-centered movies.
To me, Batman never quits, and Joker doesn't wear make-up to be the Clown Prince of Crime, he wears cover-up to appear "normal." That's what's prevented me from enjoying those versions (well, that and the general public's unhealthy obsession: "greatest performance evaaaaaar!"), and has kept Nicholson's portrayal - despite his portly physique - as the superior version.

Of course I think it's important to note that since BtAS's debut, with Conroy and Hamill's portrayals, those are the voices I hear in my head when reading the comics. Irrelevant to movie discussion, though.
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'89 is my favorite as an Elseworlds tale. But he's far from the comic book Batman I grew up with (Neil Adams era). I grew up on West's version in reruns for the live-action, so that's my nostalgic choice.
Batman '89 is it's own beast, for sure. Elfman's score gets me every time.

I have the Adam West series on DVD. Yvonne Craig... *grrr*

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To me, Batman never quits, and Joker doesn't wear make-up to be the Clown Prince of Crime, he wears cover-up to appear "normal." That's what's prevented me from enjoying those versions (well, that and the general public's unhealthy obsession: "greatest performance evaaaaaar!"), and has kept Nicholson's portrayal - despite his portly physique - as the superior version.
I also prefer Nicholson to Ledger. That tongue thing Ledger did was bloody stupid. I think if he hadn't died, he probably wouldn't even have been nominated for an Oscar.

Of course, my definitive Joker is Mark Hamill's cartoon/video game version.
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I have the Adam West series on DVD. Yvonne Craig... *grrr*

XD Most definitely a different time, with different women.

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I also prefer Nicholson to Ledger. That tongue thing Ledger did was bloody stupid. I think if he hadn't died, he probably wouldn't even have been nominated for an Oscar.

Of course, my definitive Joker is Mark Hamill's cartoon/video game version.
I agree on Ledger. I think it was the wall-to-wall media surrounding his death that not only made that film the phenom it was, but got him the Oscar nod for his bad Tom Waits impersonation...

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