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08-11-2021, 03:27 AM | #151 |
Zarana & Zandar
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Some feedback for Hasbro:
Zartan, his sister Zarana & her vanished twin are three characters that could benefit from narrative and a change in marketing. Past marketing focuses Zarana and Zandar (if Zandar is even produced) onto Zartan and their relation to each other, again, if Zandar is even included, goes ignored. Zartan's marketing doesn't mention he has siblings, but we know he has them. There's no need to mention them. Zarana's marketing focuses solely on being related to Zartan and, in the past, how her skills are in contrast to his. She is not a character with an independant concept. She needs more familial dimension than just Zartan, so I give you... Zandar, her vanished twin. He's usually marketed as Zartan's brother, and you're supposed to forget about him, and that's it. His relation to Zarana is completely unacknowledged. Marketing him in the direction of Zarana instead of Zartan acknowledges their relationship as twins and establishes Zartan has two siblings. Zarana & Zandar's original 1980s looks have similar elements, namely her shirt and his scarf, each ragged at the edges and the scarf could have been torn from the shirt. Their look is very rarely updated as matching and another element is lost from these characters. Zartan's new scarf takes directly away from Zandar's classic visual look and the fanon that it was torn from Zarana's shirt. This is a blow for Zandar and signifies to me that Hasbro has absolutely no intention of making a Zandar figure or incorporating his twinship with Zarana into their lore. Do something different, Hasbro. Don't do what every creative team has done before you, which is focus everything about Zarana onto Zartan, omit Zandar completely, or, if Zandar is included, make his look non-matching with Zarana and discourage the notion that they're twins. It's all been done. What I hope to see (a matching Zandar & Zarana with their lore as twins intact and not discouraged) is different than what I expect to see. Who am I kidding? Hasbro doesn't care. My feedback will go ignored. (Why is Zandar deemed too unpopular by Hasbro? It's not like they invested a lot of resources and time into the character and it flopped. They didn't try at all. It's the same thing all over again.)
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08-11-2021, 05:10 AM | #152 |
Iron Grenadier
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Road Pig is easily my favorite Dreadnok outside of the original three and Monkey Wrench, and I definitely hope we get him, but saying he’s more popular then Zarana is a bit of a stretch.
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08-11-2021, 10:09 AM | #153 |
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I think Zarana isn't that popular outside of Hisstank. I am fairly certain Buzzer Road Pig, Ripper, or Torch could have beat her as the most popular if it was a fandom wide thing.
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08-11-2021, 11:55 AM | #154 |
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I don't know about that. Her big love interest story with MAINFRAME sticks in my head, and I think a lot of the fans are influenced by the cartoon. She was even a big part of the GI JOE movie too, so she is pretty popular. I still want the OG 3 Dreadnoks before anyone else though, just for the record.
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08-11-2021, 11:57 AM | #155 |
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I am not saying she is not popular, but I'd imagine the OG 3 are more popular. They are rather prominent in the cartoon after all, and they see some action in the comics.
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08-11-2021, 11:59 AM | #156 |
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If what you're saying is the OG 3 are more popular, I think there's an argument to be made for that.
If what you're saying is Road Pig is more popular, I have a harder time believing that.
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08-11-2021, 12:01 PM | #157 |
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I'll admit I don't care nor no much of Road pigs fanbase, I thought I saw it floating around he was popular for the 90s Joe fans. I'll stick to the OG 3, I know little to nothing of RP.
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08-11-2021, 12:03 PM | #158 |
McGuffin Device Inventor
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I would agree with you, and the issue where the OG3 tear up the airport was one of my favorite books.
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08-11-2021, 12:20 PM | #159 |
Washed Out
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Oh, that's definitely true. Road Pig is the favorite of a bunch of people. The fans are just more split on him than they are on Zarana, that's all.
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08-11-2021, 01:27 PM | #160 |
Zarana & Zandar
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Zarana is more widely known. Older fans know her as being Zartan's sister. Younger fans, possibly in part to my efforts in this area, know her and Zandar as being twins, and thus, associated with one another.
All this aside, I must be on a ton of ignore lists.
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