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05-24-2022, 09:02 AM | #401 |
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yeah, going by what i said earlier, i wish they left the army builders like the marauder guy and the traksuit guy for later on, and released their original characters first. but, i get it. marauder fans bring a LOT of money in; and then people that are still into army building can buy multiples of him too.
(i dont see the need for more than one of him, myself, and will likely use him and the marauder guy as their own character should they come along) |
05-24-2022, 09:54 AM | #402 |
Iron Grenadier
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We are more than halfway to the MTF figure. I have faith that it will be unlocked well before the last day, as well as the Henchman. I will say that I hesitate to make any more predictions until I see what comes after the Ninja. That ninja...just doesn't do it for me. It just seems more like a "Robot Chicken" joke to me than a legit figure. I don't think that any vintage Snake Eyes screamed "American Ninja". Even Storm Shadow didn't seem overtly Japanese (or Japanese-American), but I may be looking through blinders.
I hope for some awesome reveals. I would really like the next 100% tool figure to be female, or another well-grounded military-type |
05-24-2022, 12:45 PM | #403 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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Is this the genesis of the Marauder character because I'm scratching my head on that one. I'm not a fan personally. I'm all for every type of o-ring/military AF collector getting their specific niche character in this Kickstarter, but that one just seems out of place. Almost like Eagle Force crept over to CS: Longbow and sought to assert itself. I agree with you, more original characters and save the army builders (whatever they might be) for later. Of course this would likely mean fewer unlocks as the incentive to reach them wouldn't be there, but still.
i literally do not care for marauder figures. the weapons/accessories? yeah totally. figures? no. absolutely not. never have. would never. o-ring figures are my preferred everything. i am not under any delusion that they are going to dive into the o-ring market. they've had 20 years to do it. they were selling accessories as far back as to when the only military figures were o-ring gijoe reissued product. marauder reuben if he's still around (TR1ER) was an o-ring customizer at first. then "new sculpt" and then 25th anniversary. do i collect modern star wars figures with the same articulation as marauder? yes. because star wars figures have never been issued any other way; short of 5poa and they arent "generic soldier i can spend 3x as much to customize into something i want." Quote:
That ninja...just doesn't do it for me. It just seems more like a "Robot Chicken" joke to me than a legit figure. I don't think that any vintage Snake Eyes screamed "American Ninja". Even Storm Shadow didn't seem overtly Japanese (or Japanese-American), but I may be looking through blinders.
I hope for some awesome reveals. I would really like the next 100% tool figure to be female, or another well-grounded military-type frankly, nothing after ghost that we've seen on the kickstarter does it for me... but i can see "american ninja", "japanese ninja" ... and "russian ninja" because why not? maybe he learned from some kung fu clan that the soviets work with? no idea. but i overall, hate ninjas in my gijoe cereal. hopefully this is it. if there is a female figure (or two) revealed later what a fantastical missed opportunity. there's nothing i need more in my collection right now than o-ring female figures. do you know how near impossible it is to find parts to customize female figures? how expensive? i've had some figures just sitting pieced together just because i dont want to ruin the parts by not making absolutely 100% my plan to modify them is infallible. but to wait for three figures im not thrilled about to unlock; and the kick starter not make it past them - and there were actually women models at the ready for this? i cant even begin to describe my total disappointment. overall - i cant say enough how unthrilled i am at getting doubles or armybuilding. but, as i've said: armybuilders sell. marauder figures sell. i have the sinking suspicion im going to be changing my backing come last day of the campaign just because i do not see the value for me in it. as much as i literally do not want to do that. i dont need 5 more figures just to have 5 more figures. i have enough stuff just to have stuff. im super bummed that two figures i definitely do not really need or want have to unlock before more original characters come out (even though the ninja doesnt do it for me) and like i said above, i backed a kickstarter that i basically have no interest in backing, just for their figure's contribution because i want more to come from them; and now that my chance is here, i just cant. christ. it's starting to feel like im backing kickstarters just for the people working on it, than i am the actual product. i swear after legends of the hidden temple ninjas something or other from chad/matt and darren (all ninjas and i cant make it any more clear how i feel about ninjas.) - i got to stop doing that, man. Sorry i keep saying the same thing and talking in circles. i want longbow to succeed, i want to be apart of it; but i hope my grievances make some sense. Last edited by THEDARKONE508; 05-24-2022 at 01:10 PM.. |
05-25-2022, 10:57 AM | #404 |
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the thing that sort of/kind of irked me about the skeletron one, is...that marauder had it's finger prints all over it. but, also it felt like this was at one time "kind of a thing", where one cant release a 3.75" kickstarter without marauder in some fashion being involved just to get connections with factories or whatever. i mean, there's no fucking way i could afford that skeletron ship and it's size. but i could go out of my way to back grindstone toys' skeletron o-ring figure because i want these guys to succeed and make tons more stuff.
i literally do not care for marauder figures. the weapons/accessories? yeah totally. figures? no. absolutely not. never have. would never. o-ring figures are my preferred everything. i am not under any delusion that they are going to dive into the o-ring market. they've had 20 years to do it. they were selling accessories as far back as to when the only military figures were o-ring gijoe reissued product. marauder reuben if he's still around (TR1ER) was an o-ring customizer at first. then "new sculpt" and then 25th anniversary. do i collect modern star wars figures with the same articulation as marauder? yes. because star wars figures have never been issued any other way; short of 5poa and they arent "generic soldier i can spend 3x as much to customize into something i want." i wish i had your enthusiasm. frankly, nothing after ghost that we've seen on the kickstarter does it for me... but i can see "american ninja", "japanese ninja" ... and "russian ninja" because why not? maybe he learned from some kung fu clan that the soviets work with? no idea. but i overall, hate ninjas in my gijoe cereal. hopefully this is it. if there is a female figure (or two) revealed later what a fantastical missed opportunity. there's nothing i need more in my collection right now than o-ring female figures. do you know how near impossible it is to find parts to customize female figures? how expensive? i've had some figures just sitting pieced together just because i dont want to ruin the parts by not making absolutely 100% my plan to modify them is infallible. but to wait for three figures im not thrilled about to unlock; and the kick starter not make it past them - and there were actually women models at the ready for this? i cant even begin to describe my total disappointment. overall - i cant say enough how unthrilled i am at getting doubles or armybuilding. but, as i've said: armybuilders sell. marauder figures sell. i have the sinking suspicion im going to be changing my backing come last day of the campaign just because i do not see the value for me in it. as much as i literally do not want to do that. i dont need 5 more figures just to have 5 more figures. i have enough stuff just to have stuff. im super bummed that two figures i definitely do not really need or want have to unlock before more original characters come out (even though the ninja doesnt do it for me) and like i said above, i backed a kickstarter that i basically have no interest in backing, just for their figure's contribution because i want more to come from them; and now that my chance is here, i just cant. christ. it's starting to feel like im backing kickstarters just for the people working on it, than i am the actual product. i swear after legends of the hidden temple ninjas something or other from chad/matt and darren (all ninjas and i cant make it any more clear how i feel about ninjas.) - i got to stop doing that, man. Sorry i keep saying the same thing and talking in circles. i want longbow to succeed, i want to be apart of it; but i hope my grievances make some sense. For me this is a cool way to give my kids some o-ring figures to play with the Skystriker and Skeletron coming next year. I prefer 1:18 modern era style, but they seem to love o-rings so why not. I only have a few black major figures, because the figures I grew up playing with were my older brothers. Its neat that there are people putting in this much work to create o-rings in 2022. The kids don't have any nostalgic attachment to the original gi-joe characters, so it doesn't make sense to pay for vintage joes for our own stash. I prefer the more realistic looking army figures over Ghost and the Russian ninja but my kids are probably going to love those figures more than the "realistic" ones. All in all its a cool time to be a fan of o-ring and 1:18. |
05-25-2022, 11:31 AM | #405 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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im certainly excited about the product, please dont think im not.
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05-25-2022, 02:35 PM | #406 |
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05-25-2022, 03:07 PM | #407 |
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you know... looking at this KS and comparing it to other recent ones.. especially the Marauders Vietnam KS.. I am having a hard time with their large gaps between stretch goals..
their tiers may be completely reasonable - I am not going to pretend to know about the costs of a KS.. but what I do know is what I have seen in comparable KS I have backed - mostly from Marauders, Eagle Force, BossFight, Chicken Fried Toys, etc.. so in my mind, 30k between is VERY high.. and repainted figures should be unlocked at around 10-15k each. So the optics of these stretch goals is not very good IMO and may end up hurting them in the end... people will back more if they have access to more figures. #1 the worst is the very first stretch... at 108K (40K over) you unlock Outlaw.. and all he has is a new head, gas mask and gun. I would expect this figure to be at a 15k stretch, not 40k. #2 The next stretch at 30k more is Ghost- who is mostly made up of parts from the Roboskull KS.. he gets a new torso and head. Again, to me, this is a 15k stretch goal. #3 you get the Marauders figure at 30k more. I guess this is probably reasonable - he looks to be all new and has new accessories. #4 is the tracksuit henchmen at 30k - he is again a complete repaint. $5 is the Russian Ninja - looks to be all new parts for 31K so for the first 78k, you get 4 figures (2.5 all new).. and for the next 130k, you get 4 figures, (only 1.5 is new) we have been conditioned to believe that the higher costs are at the front of the campaign because it takes alot for start-up costs.. and that costs go down with more products.. this seems to be the opposite |
05-25-2022, 05:02 PM | #408 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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i tried reconciling with that a few pages back. now that every time i see the character art on facebook i see how every figure but lancer has the same parts traded between them - especially the arms and legs.
but it was explained that it's not so much the mold reuse or the paint, but the having to pay for more volume in the production, because it's going to be such a small production. here's the comment: https://www.hisstank.com/forum/5531316-post375.html do i believe it? yes. do i 30k believe it? sort of kind of. if anything it just makes me wish that their more original figures were used instead of army builders and a marauder figure; and how pissed i am going to be if there was a female buck that was pushed to the end and it wasnt unlocked for 30k goals and army builders instead. in that case, i really dont want to know it was slated for this campaign. |
05-25-2022, 05:11 PM | #409 |
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Bringing this site back up: https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gr...etoys/longbow/
It's now expected to bring in just over $300K. Setting aside that the site's mathematics are atrociously terrible and don't remotely represent the curvilinear spending trends of crowdfund projects, I am concerned about how stagnant this crowdfund has been for the last week or so. If you take out the outliers in days 1 and 2, it's averaging about $2K/day in new funds, meaning it would take (all things being equal) 15 days to unlock another stretch goal. Kinda depressing to think about. Sure, the last day will have some increase, but I'm recalling how sluggish the Skystriker HasLab was until the Cobra figure add-ons were included. Perhaps there's something like that planned here, but if not, I suspect that last day's gonna be a bit of a bust for those looking for a wide berth of figures. Those of us who are all in will be picking our extra figures from the 5-6 that are available.
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05-25-2022, 05:24 PM | #410 |
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Bringing this site back up: https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/gr...etoys/longbow/
Perhaps there's something like that planned here, I am going to be up front about 2 things with you guys, though. 1) The female buck was never planned for this Kickstarter. She will have slightly different construction in arms to allow for a more feminine appearance and that will take time for the factory to get it worked out. 2) The Red Ninja is the only Ninja in this Kickstarter. |
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