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10-19-2020, 07:41 PM | #7031 |
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I'm not a fan of made-to-order preorders from big companies like Hasbro, but they are doing it and it is helping avoid bots and get people what they want. Just in the last few months, Hasbro has done made-to-order preorders for Regal Cobra Commander and a lot of the PulseCon exclusives (most notably Snake Supreme CC, Hellfire Club, and the SW Endor Set). They also seem to have done a made-to-order preorder for their Hellfire Club guards when they sold out so fast. NECA has also started doing made-to-order runs for their Target Exclusives. So I don't think the idea that Target exclusives for Classified could be done made-to-order is worth the vitriol in your post. Target isn't going to run the preorders, that's true. But who cares who runs it if it gets items in the hands of people who want them?
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The solution to this is so simple: let Target decide how many it wants to offer casual fans in-store. Then, do an open pre-order for fans on the Target site, but a longer-lead one where they will be made in the quantity ordered, plus however many Target wants in-store. It’s the same philosophy they used for Oopsie Cobra Commander, but on the retailer’s site so that the retailer gets the full value it wants from its exclusive.
That way, Target makes bank from all the army builders’ pre-orders, everybody else gets what they want, and Target doesn’t even have to add a captcha to the site, because the factory will just make to order. All you have to do is say “no cancellations” due to the fact that yours will literally be made for you, so bots can’t order thousands and then dump them back on the store or manufacturer when they realize most people already got what they want, while anyone who wasn’t paying attention will have a shot in-store. It’s bad for Hasbro (and Neca, etc) to have their awesome figures so hard to find at Target. I realize Target likes the foot traffic that hard-to-find figures bring in, and that Hasbro wants to please a large and powerful client, but at a certain point Hasbro (and Neca, etc) is really harming their brand by making such great stuff so impossible and stressful to find. Target is effectively damaging the Joe brand in order to drive foot traffic, which is not a fair deal for Hasbro. In the long run, Hasbro needs easy access to product and low customer stress if it wants to thrive. They don't care not everyone that wants one got one. They don't care slime-ball scalpers or bots got most of them. They don't care their employees are being hounded all day long. They don't care some employees bought or stole entire shipments. All they see is that their website and stores sold out, some people are complaining about it, and they made a lot of money. They could absolutely develop ways, like to one you mentioned, to fix some of the biggest problems, but as I might have said; They. Don't. Care. Is it possible that Target, realizing the demand for these, would/could get whatever stock Hasbro held back?
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10-19-2020, 07:56 PM | #7033 |
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Check me on something. My Baroness doesn’t seem to have much swivel in her torso joint. Scarlett’s joint pivots and swivels but Baroness seems to pivot only. Are you guys experiencing this as well or is it a bum figure?
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10-19-2020, 07:58 PM | #7034 |
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This is a pretty harsh retort for an idea that is actually being done by Hasbro right now, over and over again.
I'm not a fan of made-to-order preorders from big companies like Hasbro, but they are doing it and it is helping avoid bots and get people what they want. Just in the last few months, Hasbro has done made-to-order preorders for Regal Cobra Commander and a lot of the PulseCon exclusives (most notably Snake Supreme CC, Hellfire Club, and the SW Endor Set). They also seem to have done a made-to-order preorder for their Hellfire Club guards when they sold out so fast. NECA has also started doing made-to-order runs for their Target Exclusives. So I don't think the idea that Target exclusives for Classified could be done made-to-order is worth the vitriol in your post. Target isn't going to run the preorders, that's true. But who cares who runs it if it gets items in the hands of people who want them? Personally I try to avoid things like that.
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10-19-2020, 08:03 PM | #7035 |
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But I'm not an expert on it because I wasn't interested in any of the figures. But the quantities available at BBTS and EE suggest it was a pretty significant batch of figures.
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10-19-2020, 09:37 PM | #7036 |
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10-20-2020, 12:02 PM | #7037 |
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Large retailers do tinker at the margins all the time, not so much because the individual adjustment is all that important but because the overall practice sums up to a worthwhile amount. As for quantity, just make it akin to Haslab (not actually Haslab) in that the preorders take effect if and only if some predetermined threshold is met.
There’s not much r&d if you consider that most Classified exclusives are basically repaints anyway, except that they’re issued first. I don’t know whether the design cost or master tooling cost is billed to the main line or the offeror of the exclusive, but if you have an appealing product that does meet the quantity threshold, it all pays for itself even for a unique sculpt. And then as far as Target doing it, they must have a toy isle division at corporate that would be tasked with innovating ways to generate extra revenue, potentially get a leg up on their competitors, grab market share, drive online sales and website traffic in an increasingly digital market, blah blah blah. They already do online sales and distribution, so no problem there. Jscott991 had good info that may make all this unnecessary. If they do make a habit of re-offering the exclusives through fan channels a year or two down the line, and in numbers, then it might be easier to just use that model instead, although the long wait is a big downside. But that said, I don’t think anybody has identified any showstoppers to my idea. |
10-20-2020, 01:00 PM | #7038 |
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Edit: ok, maybe you meant the actual figure just being crappy, not an actual defect. If that’s the case, you are correct. |
10-20-2020, 01:37 PM | #7039 |
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Hey man. I hadn't noticed it before but mine was the same way, so I dipped her waist in near-boiling water for a few seconds (removed all accessories first). That got her swivel going, although it makes a ratcheting sound but the ab crunch on some of the other figures does the same thing so it's a feature, I guess.
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10-20-2020, 02:11 PM | #7040 |
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That’s not true at all. Super7 only does made to order preorders for their ultimates line. And if you have a defect, they will replace the part or entire figure at no charge.
Edit: ok, maybe you meant the actual figure just being crappy, not an actual defect. If that’s the case, you are correct.
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