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04-09-2021, 03:05 PM | #9561 |
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Yeah. Eventually someone (apparently not Hasbro / Target) is going to need to come up with a permanent solution to the scalper bot problem, it's ruining online retail for in-demand products in other categories too, pc graphics cards for example...
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04-09-2021, 03:09 PM | #9562 |
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Release everything in HasbroPulse's "Partner Exclusive" section.
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04-09-2021, 03:21 PM | #9563 |
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Except it's not even a temporary solution. The idea "we won't have preorders at all or announce the release date!" addresses a small part of a problem, but even then only temporarily.
Say the Major Bludd release date is today, 9 April (PURE HYPOTHETICAL FOR THOSE WHO DON'T READ EVERYTHING). If Target announced that, irrespective of preorders, they'd have customers in store today on the 9th asking for the figure, demanding floor associates go back and scour the trucks, root through stock, etc. By eliminating the announced release date, they've only moved that target. They won't ask on the 9th b/c they don't know that date is there. But they will ask on the very first day they catch word that someone, somewhere in the US found a Major Bludd in Target. Is that after the 9th? Before? All of the above? Yes. Thinking through this more fully now, it may make the problem of customers demanding staff time to search and look through stock, verbally harassing staff - sadly this policy may make that *worse*. But eliminating preorders doesn't hurt scalpers, because they weren't getting the majority of their product from the online preorders. They got them after release. It doesn't prevent them from going to stores and buying cases out. It changes next to nothing about how scalpers operate. The most optimistic interpretation of this change in policy is Target essentially saying "we know we're the drizzling shits at preorder fulfillment and failing in our mission of delivering to customers. so we're not going to try anymore." Yeah, thinking through this a bit more fully, this will absolutely make things worse for consumers and for Target staff. It is astonishing to think this company became a global retail monolith, given the knowledge of how they operate.
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04-09-2021, 03:27 PM | #9564 |
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They will have detective manbabies at target every morning and stalking the trucks just you watch.
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Except it's not even a temporary solution. The idea "we won't have preorders at all or announce the release date!" addresses a small part of a problem, but even then only temporarily.
Say the Major Bludd release date is today, 9 April (PURE HYPOTHETICAL FOR THOSE WHO DON'T READ EVERYTHING). If Target announced that, irrespective of preorders, they'd have customers in store today on the 9th asking for the figure, demanding floor associates go back and scour the trucks, root through stock, etc. By eliminating the announced release date, they've only moved that target. They won't ask on the 9th b/c they don't know that date is there. But they will ask on the very first day they catch word that someone, somewhere in the US found a Major Bludd in Target. Is that after the 9th? Before? All of the above? Yes. Thinking through this more fully now, it may make the problem of customers demanding staff time to search and look through stock, verbally harassing staff - sadly this policy may make that *worse*. But eliminating preorders doesn't hurt scalpers, because they weren't getting the majority of their product from the online preorders. They got them after release. It doesn't prevent them from going to stores and buying cases out. It changes next to nothing about how scalpers operate. The most optimistic interpretation of this change in policy is Target essentially saying "we know we're the drizzling shits at preorder fulfillment and failing in our mission of delivering to customers. so we're not going to try anymore." Yeah, thinking through this a bit more fully, this will absolutely make things worse for consumers and for Target staff. It is astonishing to think this company became a global retail monolith, given the knowledge of how they operate.
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04-09-2021, 03:32 PM | #9565 |
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Maybe, maybe not.
Target's been doing a lot of work on their inventory systems to try to prevent third-party sites like Popfindr and Brickseek from being able to tap into them. So if that works, and there are no preorders it's a level playing field for everyone, and it also prevents botted-up buyers from emptying the entire preorder inventory in seconds. |
04-09-2021, 03:35 PM | #9566 |
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Except it's not even a temporary solution. The idea "we won't have preorders at all or announce the release date!" addresses a small part of a problem, but even then only temporarily.
Say the Major Bludd release date is today, 9 April (PURE HYPOTHETICAL FOR THOSE WHO DON'T READ EVERYTHING). If Target announced that, irrespective of preorders, they'd have customers in store today on the 9th asking for the figure, demanding floor associates go back and scour the trucks, root through stock, etc. By eliminating the announced release date, they've only moved that target. They won't ask on the 9th b/c they don't know that date is there. But they will ask on the very first day they catch word that someone, somewhere in the US found a Major Bludd in Target. Is that after the 9th? Before? All of the above? Yes. Thinking through this more fully now, it may make the problem of customers demanding staff time to search and look through stock, verbally harassing staff - sadly this policy may make that *worse*. But eliminating preorders doesn't hurt scalpers, because they weren't getting the majority of their product from the online preorders. They got them after release. It doesn't prevent them from going to stores and buying cases out. It changes next to nothing about how scalpers operate. The most optimistic interpretation of this change in policy is Target essentially saying "we know we're the drizzling shits at preorder fulfillment and failing in our mission of delivering to customers. so we're not going to try anymore." Yeah, thinking through this a bit more fully, this will absolutely make things worse for consumers and for Target staff. It is astonishing to think this company became a global retail monolith, given the knowledge of how they operate. |
04-09-2021, 03:36 PM | #9567 |
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Ha! I'll retain your services in the future to distill my concerns into a single sentence.
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04-09-2021, 03:50 PM | #9568 |
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You act like toy exclusives are actually a big part of their business. It's not. As for Target Staff, they'll just put up those "We won't look in the back for toys" signs up everywhere, and point to them when people get angry about it. Because ultimately crying, angry man-babies are not worth their time and effort. There are millions of people who probably rarely or ever buy toys and don't give two shits about Hasbro exclusives that keep them in business and profitable.
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04-09-2021, 04:04 PM | #9569 |
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04-09-2021, 04:05 PM | #9570 |
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Five stars for the proper use of "tautologically."
I wasn't gonna address person anyway. Putting words in my mouth and ignoring the larger point that we might very well be in agreement to make a mostly trivial counterpoint? Big time pass.
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