[youdoitimbusy]

An entire wave of Snake Eyes? Like, 6 different versions, or the same figure? Either way, Hasbro sure is doubling down on the Hellen Keller of the Joe team.

[Steevy Maximus]

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Originally Posted by Forza Irresistibile

I'd like to know if Tarantula will look like Snake Eyes V1 or the version with Timber 1985 ...

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Originally Posted by jscott991

I think if it's O-Ring vintage carded figures, probably V1. If it's modern construction figures, probably V2.
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My instinct says that if they have to remake molds, there really isn't much reason to NOT remake the v2. It's the most iconic look for the figure, one of the most popular figures from the era, and given it hasn't seen a domestic release since the mid-80s, I'd argue that there is TREMENDOUS sales potential.

I think it would even justify the argument that just shipping the figure in its own assortment would be justified.

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Originally Posted by xasonnex

I think it will reveal how much $ they are putting in the line. The majority of the V1 parts were in good shape last time Hasbro used them, so if they still have them I'd bet on that (the last time Hasbro ever SAID anything about vintage tooling, it was along the lines of "if we've used it recently, we're keeping it, but if we have not used it since the 90's, it's toast." The 2010 O ring convention set came AFTER that, so a year later they still had some). If they don't have the old tooling, they may remake V1 just because of how many other figures use SOME of those parts. But V2 was NEVER repainted in the vintage line and the tooling was lost before the 2000's repaint era. That would only be good for a Snake Eyes figure, but that figure would sell well.

Or maybe there's a true exclusive and they end up using both.

Hasbro spent much of the post-2002 era refurbishing a LOT of those molds, even doing some outright remolding to repair or replace (Mike T's look at one of Firefly's MANY reuses highlighted this. I just can't remember which figure he did it on).

Since 2010, Hasbro's been shifting a LOT of their production to other sources. As is, the big reason we're still getting Transformers reissues is because Takara is also involved. Even then, the recent Dino Cassettes were remade based off of knock offs due to their rarity. It was SHOCKING when Hasbro dug up the 1997 Terrorsaur mold in 2014 for a store exclusive.

But GI Joe isn't as big a brand, so I don't hold it as gospel they still have access to what tooling they had left. The "reuse" angle isn't solid either as most of his V1 mold-mates aren't really top tier characters (aside from maybe Stalker).

[46 Zone]

Isn't there a Cutter wannabe that can confiscate a case and give us some Intel?


WHAT THE HELL STYLE ARE THESE FIGURES!!!!!

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by axonrey

I'm going to go with since they are using the same codenames for both lines, that the REtro is going to be 4" versions of the 6" figures on retro cards.

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Originally Posted by jscott991

I'd probably get Scarlett for the head and Duke in that case, but pass on most of the others so far.

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Originally Posted by HitandRun

Maybe they will be scaled down versions of the Classified figs? I personally wouldn't mind that. If they are true retro figs I'd like the 1985 Snake Eyes.

To be perfectly honest, if that were the case I'd be on board. Being in 1/18" scale would go a long way towards helping me turn the other cheek when it comes to just about every gripe I have with them aesthetically. Hell, they're better designed than most of the new sculpts were, and I already have a shitload of accessories to outfit them with. And both Scarlet and Roadblock look better than any ME version I can think of (all flaws aside).


If they do make an '85 Snake Eyes, I'm going to be really pissed at myself though- in a bout of sheer madness, my dumbass just spent $100ish on one a few days ago.

Yeah, I miss 2012 Joe hunting.

[xasonnex]

[QUOTE=
Hasbro spent much of the post-2002 era refurbishing a LOT of those molds, even doing some outright remolding to repair or replace (Mike T's look at one of Firefly's MANY reuses highlighted this. I just can't remember which figure he did it on).

Since 2010, Hasbro's been shifting a LOT of their production to other sources. As is, the big reason we're still getting Transformers reissues is because Takara is also involved. Even then, the recent Dino Cassettes were remade based off of knock offs due to their rarity. It was SHOCKING when Hasbro dug up the 1997 Terrorsaur mold in 2014 for a store exclusive.

But GI Joe isn't as big a brand, so I don't hold it as gospel they still have access to what tooling they had left. The "reuse" angle isn't solid either as most of his V1 mold-mates aren't really top tier characters (aside from maybe Stalker).[/QUOTE]

They spent good money refurbishing those molds. They completely remade the Lady Jaye and Short Fuse bodies with new heads. The most common body part missing from older molds, the arms, were now made with softer plastic, which would extend the life of the molds. Until they say "we destroyed them ALL", I hold on to hope that at least some vintage tooling exists, which increases the chance of more figures past this first wave.

I am not blind to the possibility an exec said "we haven't used them in years, axe 'em." But GI Joe is, unlike G1 Transformers, wholly owned by Hasbro, and long forgotten tooling has popped up many times before (hell, one of the convention sets used Sgt Savage accessories!).

[Sentinel Red]

Man, it's amazing that the first post was in March and we still don't know yet. Just put us out of our misery, Hasbro, you don't have to show anything yet if you don't want to but just say what this line is going to be FFS.

[Steevy Maximus]

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Originally Posted by xasonnex

I am not blind to the possibility an exec said "we haven't used them in years, axe 'em." But GI Joe is, unlike G1 Transformers, wholly owned by Hasbro, and long forgotten tooling has popped up many times before (hell, one of the convention sets used Sgt Savage accessories!).

But again, that was over a DECADE ago. Even just 10 years can show a massive change in priorities and direction. Just compare GI Joe in 1982 to how the brand was being handled in 1992.

[txbart]

Is the Movie still releasing in October? I hope this doesn’t get killed the same way the Retaliation figures did.

[youdoitimbusy]

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Originally Posted by txbart

Is the Movie still releasing in October? I hope this doesn’t get killed the same way the Retaliation figures did.

That was a nightmare. Everyone bought wave one before they pulled what was left, then they heavy ordered wave one again, due to the switch to 3d. That stuff just peg warmed. It was a huge debacle that left a real bad taste in my mouth. The scary thing now, with this whole covid thing, who really knows what theaters will be open or when. It could change at the drop of a hat, and we could be in a bad place again.

[jscott991]

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Originally Posted by youdoitimbusy

That was a nightmare. Everyone bought wave one before they pulled what was left, then they heavy ordered wave one again, due to the switch to 3d. That stuff just peg warmed. It was a huge debacle that left a real bad taste in my mouth. The scary thing now, with this whole covid thing, who really knows what theaters will be open or when. It could change at the drop of a hat, and we could be in a bad place again.

I would guess that Snake Eyes will release to streaming services (like probably a lot of movies) and not wait for a full theatrical reopening (which might not come until 2021).