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07-21-2019, 11:27 AM | #51 |
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07-21-2019, 09:17 PM | #52 |
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This is true.
Hey, Liefeld is nothing if not dynamic. He draws like Malachai Nicolle writes Axe Cop. No flatter than Jack Kirby's art always looks to me, I suspect. I don't think anyone's saying that Kirby wasn't an influential artist, but by the same token I think it's entirely fair to say that Liefeld's aesthetic sense dominated comics in his heyday in much the same way that Kirby did in his. Anyway, I'll take the bizarre contortions, speed lines and tiny (or conveniently obscured) feet, and you can keep the tree-stump heads, omnipresent abstract geometry and overdone shading. |
07-21-2019, 10:04 PM | #53 |
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I'm a comic book reader and creator. I love long-running creator-owned titles like Cerebus, Strangers in Paradise, Savage Dragon, and 100 Bullets. Impactful series like this are the cream of the crop. When a creator has the means to create and grow a universe of their own, it deserves to be unharassed.
Larry Hama took what would have been a short-run licensed title that nobody paid attention to for more than a few years, and he used it to build up the mythology which everyone else still picks from. The continued existence of the title which hooked me on comics in the 80s is such a rare gift and so improbable that it should be celebrated by the comics industry and seen for the amazing feat that it is. The characters have grown and evolved, and some of the character arcs are more meaningful than anything a more mainstream could ever be allowed to achieve. Most of the dead characters have stayed that way, despite a few notable exceptions. We were even able to just have an entire issue devoted to the fallen. The character of Sean has grown and evolved over the years and Dawn herself has had as much if not more development than most of the figure-characters from the 80s. This title and Larry have long-ago moved beyond the corporate constraints imposed on him in the 80s. The evolution of ARAH since it came back has been phenomenal. At this point in time, Larry Hama has been operating on his own platform of freedom, creating a story within a world of his own making and it doesn't need to be dragged backwards into the status quo of decades ago. This title deserves to be counted in with the best of comics history, but it doesn't deserve that categorization if it just goes back to being an advertisement. Perhaps the existence of this Rob Liefeld Snake-Eyes story is best thing I could hope for! It can give speculators and trend-hoppers the cartoon Snake-Eyes action figure wank they deserve while hopefully being it's own continuity and bypassing the ARAH series. There's no reason to upend a series which has been one of the longest running non-mainstream non-superhero titles just to appease a small amount of fair-weather-trend "fans" who will be here one minute, and gone the next.
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07-21-2019, 10:31 PM | #54 |
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There is zero chance Liefeld will be doing a Fake Eyes book.
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07-22-2019, 12:56 AM | #55 |
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To be fair, there is a problem existing in the Joe fanbase which we all know. So many people are nostalgia addicts, they want everything to be what they remember as kids. A lot of them are not comic readers in more than a basic general sense, too. I'm not joking when I say that this could be the right answer. A separate continuity which is a series of "greatest hits"-type moments to satisfy someone who needs a taste of what used to be. Then when the movie has been gone for a little while it can just pass away and the story isn't really affected.
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07-22-2019, 01:33 PM | #56 |
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Larry Hama took what would have been a short-run licensed title that nobody paid attention to for more than a few years, and he used it to build up the mythology which everyone else still picks from. The continued existence of the title which hooked me on comics in the 80s is such a rare gift and so improbable that it should be celebrated by the comics industry and seen for the amazing feat that it is.
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07-22-2019, 09:19 PM | #57 |
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It's fine to respect someone for what they have accomplished but when that turns to idealizing thats when it becomes a problem, refusing to see thier flaws rationalizing away any mistake,and attacking anyone who thinks differently then you, requires self reflection.
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07-22-2019, 09:22 PM | #58 |
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Is this Hama you are talking about? Who has he been attacking?
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07-22-2019, 10:46 PM | #59 |
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It's overall behavior not directed at anyone in particular.
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07-22-2019, 11:22 PM | #60 |
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I’m my opinion the best art ARAH ever had were the issues Hama pencilled.
As far as Kirby goes... well, probably almost anything you like about comics comes directly from Kirby, Lee, and the early Marvel team. Without them we would have all quit comics at age eight when we got tired of reading about the adventures of Bat-Man’s goldfish or the time Lois Lane got really fat.
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