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01-15-2015, 01:57 PM | #1 |
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How G.I. Joe'''s Flint joined the battle for America'''s childhood | Polygon
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"I was just at G.I. Joe Con, which Hasbro still partially sponsors," Ratner said. "I met up with the brilliant G.I. Joe animator and cartoon writer, former comic book writer Larry Hama. ... I said, 'I’m assuming that Mass Effect and all the big games, all the big game companies — Electronic Arts — are raking in billions from ancillary sales of toys.' And he said, 'No, quite the contrary. The difference between a child in the 80s watching a television program and wanting to play with the action figures is that that child had access to the characters for half an hour a week, and later a half hour a day during syndication of the show. But today they have 24/7 access. It’s on their iPhones, their iPads, their computer. Wherever. And so they don’t need the toys.'"
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01-15-2015, 02:31 PM | #2 |
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Makes perfect sense.
I mentioned that when someone said that Joe needs a video game. My response was "Why?" The idea of the toys is that a kid could play with the figures, reenact the shows, or come up with their own adventures. But with a game, they're playing the adventure. Their actions cause the game to progress. So why would they need the toys then?
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01-15-2015, 02:44 PM | #3 |
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I concur that the video game has replaced the toys, but I have to say, this guys seems a little off. Complaining that Reagan deregulated advertising leading to the rise of the toy lines of the 80s and 90s makes us all seem like victims with no control over our lives. Has he ever looked at a comic book ad? They do way more hardsell than tv. Also, to then say that it is a matter of taste and that a kid who is corrupted after seeing a prostitute in a video game must have weak moral fibre is missing the point. The objection to young kids playing some of these games like GTA is that they normalize behavior like killing prostitutes. I doubt one game will do anything to a kid, but multiple games and tv shows would do it too. I just find it odd that this guy thinks tv ads for a few seconds corrupted kids, but playing video games doesn't.
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01-15-2015, 04:19 PM | #4 |
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There is still a massive disconnect over the age of the average gamer and what games they're playing.
The average age of a gamer is 27 years old and RISING. The only kids of the target age for action figures (5-10 years old) that are killing virtual prostitutes with regularity are those with ridiculously irresponsible and ignorant parents. Most people playing those games (and Call of Duty, etc....) are teenagers and older. |
01-15-2015, 10:42 PM | #5 |
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Toys just don't hold te attention of today's kids. My two boys have a ton of toys but will drop them the instant an IPAD or IPHONE is available for Minecraft. I loved my joes, but if I'd had COD at 8, joes would have been a distant memory.
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01-16-2015, 10:25 AM | #6 |
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The fact is this stuff would not sell much regardless, because today's kids have about 100x more entertainment options than we did. I recall walmart used to have an entire aisle dedicated to model kits...that thing has been gone a good 10 years now? I dont think I have even seen model kits there anymore. If we had stuff like ps/xbox and tablets in the 80s, model kits, joes, heman, TFs and everything else would not have a chance. We played with that stuff simply because we didn't have anything else. Hell, how many kids even ride bikes or play outside these days?
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01-16-2015, 01:00 PM | #7 |
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I haven't checked the link out yet, but from listening to you guys, I'm going to add my 2 cents.
I'll be 41 end of this month. I'm an average part of the dynamic. Growing up, I didn't have the PS or Xbox, but I did have an Atari. I loved playing it, but I loved my figures as much. It's not as much having the games/medium to see the characters, but more the lax parents not making their kids go out and use their imaginations. Most of us 30/40-somethingsers, we were pushed to go outside. Pushed to use our toys. Nowadays, parents LET the systems run their kids/grandkids lives.
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01-16-2015, 01:57 PM | #8 |
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I haven't checked the link out yet, but from listening to you guys, I'm going to add my 2 cents.
I'll be 41 end of this month. I'm an average part of the dynamic. Growing up, I didn't have the PS or Xbox, but I did have an Atari. I loved playing it, but I loved my figures as much. It's not as much having the games/medium to see the characters, but more the lax parents not making their kids go out and use their imaginations. Most of us 30/40-somethingsers, we were pushed to go outside. Pushed to use our toys. Nowadays, parents LET the systems run their kids/grandkids lives. The truth of the matter is that there really aren't (relatively speaking) any more psychos than there were in our youth. It's just that we hear about them much more often now because the information age makes the transfer of that news virtually instantaneous across the country as opposed to being relegated mostly to "local news" when we were kids. Last edited by Jmacq1; 01-16-2015 at 02:03 PM.. |
01-18-2015, 07:32 PM | #9 |
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This is true, but it's also because the media has propagated and perpetuated the myth that there's a psycho around every corner waiting to do horrible things to your kid(s) and therefore you should never let them go outside because they'll get them! So the "Helicopter parents" never let them out of their site and structure their entire lives so that they can be "safe." Having them there right in your line of sight playing video games is "safe."
The truth of the matter is that there really aren't (relatively speaking) any more psychos than there were in our youth. It's just that we hear about them much more often now because the information age makes the transfer of that news virtually instantaneous across the country as opposed to being relegated mostly to "local news" when we were kids. Our one kid, a girl, is about to turn 15. We limited her screen time and she played with regular toys, GI Joe, Star Wars, Legos, Little Pets, and Polly Pockets. Sometimes all at once. She still likes making stuff with legos. But yeah, if parents give kids a computer or phone, and then leave them to it, of course they will play on it. I had an Atari as a kid, and I am not sure it is comparable to today. I never really felt like an Atari would have replaced my action figure time. Today, maybe. I also played Dungeons and Dragons and other rpgs, and those definitely would have lost out to Battlefield 3 and other modern games. |
01-19-2015, 12:30 AM | #10 |
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I dunno. I spent as much time playing Ninja Turtles in the arcade(and the NES port) as with the toys. Probably more so. Sometimes I do wonder what purpose action figures serve now.
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