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03-17-2019, 10:24 PM | #3671 |
I just want foam gliders.
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At this point I've given up completely on ever seeing these figures. I wish I could get my money back.
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03-17-2019, 11:01 PM | #3672 |
Cobra Viper
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Yes, but they struggled to get the factory to delver. So we got the guys who manager the Mythic Legions line.
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03-18-2019, 01:00 AM | #3673 |
Bald Master
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Looking forward to quality output the first time and ship in July! *fingers crossed*
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03-18-2019, 10:43 AM | #3674 |
LNC Commander
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The update last night didn't do anything but make me expect even more of the worst. Late June/July "IF" this or that. Too many ifs and buts. I mean, I realize this is a hard process, but why doesn't Boss Fight, the Four Horsemen or Marauder have these same difficulties? I know have wavered too much in this very thread, saying I'm done, then I will support, then I will wait, too stressful for toys man, too stressful. I am awaiting the coming: "well, this had to be tweaked, then that had to be tweaked, then the glue bottle stuck, then Chinese Thanksgiving, then Chinese Independence Day, then the second glue bottle stuck so it will be Q2 2020 for shipping IF everything goes perfect. I'm movin on guys. Movin on.
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03-18-2019, 11:06 AM | #3675 |
Cobra Viper
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I just feel I need to reply to this. I'm sorry you are frustrated..that I can understand and deal with but I can't stand aside while you say I'm a liar. I have been very honest and transparent with this line from day one. Sadly we got stuck with a original project manager who dropped the ball and a factory that has not been truthful and can't meet deadlines. All that said I have never once lied about anything.
I also need to point out, and this is not an excuse only facts, BFS, 4H and MTF ALL had a 2-3 year production cycle on their initial waves as they worked out the kinks. Other current kickstarters are having these same issues...so we are not the only ones having issues with factories in China. Having a great factory is key to delivery. We thought we had one, as the Animal Warriors of the Kingdom line was delivered on time and they used the same factory. Sadly this has not been the case. Understandingly you've moved on and I can't do anything about that but thank you for your support. But I can't sit back while you call me a liar. FMF Quote:
Me too. I was going to say "Sorry me too" but I'm not sorry. I have dropped well over 1500 bucks on this line between the figs, the books, the cards.....I campaigned like a you know whater on forums, to my friends etc to get them to back this. Since 2016 my focus has changed a lot too and I am no longer interested. The lies, delays, false hopes....I'm done.
The update last night didn't do anything but make me expect even more of the worst. Late June/July "IF" this or that. Too many ifs and buts. I mean, I realize this is a hard process, but why doesn't Boss Fight, the Four Horsemen or Marauder have these same difficulties? I know have wavered too much in this very thread, saying I'm done, then I will support, then I will wait, too stressful for toys man, too stressful. I am awaiting the coming: "well, this had to be tweaked, then that had to be tweaked, then the glue bottle stuck, then Chinese Thanksgiving, then Chinese Independence Day, then the second glue bottle stuck so it will be Q2 2020 for shipping IF everything goes perfect. I'm movin on guys. Movin on.
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03-18-2019, 11:08 AM | #3676 |
Crimson Guard
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I was never THAT into Eagle Force due to the scale and material, but I enjoyed the character design and comic panels. I enjoy backing and supporting ME-style action figures, but I have very little disposable income, so I’m forced to be overly-discerning, but...look, if they can deliver to me a good product comparable to Marauders, I’m pretty forgiving. This Kickstarter is in the bag, so it’s just a waiting game. I do feel really bad for the Bill and the guys.
And no...I don’t feel I was ever lied to Last edited by rob; 03-18-2019 at 11:24 AM.. |
03-18-2019, 11:10 AM | #3677 |
Cobra Lab Rat
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The update last night didn't do anything but make me expect even more of the worst. Late June/July "IF" this or that. Too many ifs and buts. I mean, I realize this is a hard process, but why doesn't Boss Fight, the Four Horsemen or Marauder have these same difficulties?
Four Horsemen is not that great. They reuse all their tooling so it's fast, but the problem is they are prone to bizarro schemes like paid membership, delaying announced projects for years so you regret being a fan of their properties, paid membership discounts and simple BACKSTABBING and penny pushing schemes. Did I mention they reuse tooling even worse than Hasbro? |
03-18-2019, 11:39 AM | #3678 |
Night Force
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Location: Danville IN
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I'm staying in, sure will be worth the wait and the quality will be great too.
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03-18-2019, 12:16 PM | #3679 |
Crimson Guard
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BFS and MTF earned their current reputations for quality by tripping over their shared dick at least once, in a gigantic way that ended up requiring Marauder John to eat the costs of the entire first MTF KS campaign, afaik. Dick-tripping is absolutely 100% normal and to be expected, imho. The *sole* difference between what all these KS guys and the big guys at Hasbro give us is that we get to see/hear how the KS guys do it in real-time instead of seeing things at the near-to-end points at Toy Fair and retail. There's not one single, solitary jot of evidence to support the idea that any of these KS-funded 18th action figure lines are scams as has apparently happened on the video game side of KS, and hating on any of them for showing us they're undergoing a learning process is just immaturity based on ignorance, imho. |
03-18-2019, 12:23 PM | #3680 |
Gunslinger
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I have shared in the frustrations right along with everyone else, but I can not say that I was ever lied to. In manufacturing, there are things that are simply out of your hands. Machines go wrong, people make mistakes, but you deal with them. I’ve found the best thing to do under such circumstances is to be right up front with your clients. You say this is what happened, and this is what I’m doing to make it better. I think Eagle Force has done this to the best of their abilities.
I’m still a supporter.
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