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09-19-2014, 09:33 AM | #21 |
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Plus their programing was all over the place with old sitcoms, new games shows, reruns of old TFs and Joe with new ones. Maybe they could have organized it better have like an action block friday nights. But really what do I know. |
09-19-2014, 09:37 AM | #22 |
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Does this mean the future of She-Zow is in jeopardy?
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09-19-2014, 02:07 PM | #23 |
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I think a Joe cartoon could work on Netflix. I wonder if they'd be better off making animated movies. Certainly, it would be cheaper to produce than an entire season of content. Animated movie to help sell whatever toys they have planned for the year. I just don't see Hasbro as having that much coordinated vision for the Joe brand.
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09-19-2014, 02:45 PM | #24 |
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I'm going to quote what I said on Seibertron.com:
The Hub was barely worth cable back in 2010 (it was actually a good channel then). THEN when the Hub changed drastically in 2012, I lost a lot of my interest in it (GI Joe Renegades, my favorite show besides TF Prime, was cancelled)and they got rid of Dan Vs. and became too much like it's competitors and I got rid of cable. I felt relieved after I got rid of cable, I just don't need it. Besides, I can watch it online or on Netflix anyway. I'm not looking forward to RID so I won't be dramatically altered if it ends up at 4 am on CN. It took 2 long years for that channel to die, 2 long painful years, and now the suffering is over... |
09-19-2014, 06:17 PM | #25 |
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I'm going to quote what I said on Seibertron.com:
The Hub was barely worth cable back in 2010 (it was actually a good channel then). THEN when the Hub changed drastically in 2012, I lost a lot of my interest in it (GI Joe Renegades, my favorite show besides TF Prime, was cancelled)and they got rid of Dan Vs. and became too much like it's competitors and I got rid of cable. I felt relieved after I got rid of cable, I just don't need it. Besides, I can watch it online or on Netflix anyway. I'm not looking forward to RID so I won't be dramatically altered if it ends up at 4 am on CN. It took 2 long years for that channel to die, 2 long painful years, and now the suffering is over... Cartoon Network wouldn't take Joe in 2002, certainly won't now that they've all but eliminated their action cartoon support. Nick has TMNT and Power Rangers Disney has Star Wars and Marvel. On top of that, 9-3 is hardly the ideal time to promote a new animated series. So I generally view this as a mixed result right now, skewing towards "not good for us" Quote:
I think a Joe cartoon could work on Netflix. I wonder if they'd be better off making animated movies. Certainly, it would be cheaper to produce than an entire season of content. Animated movie to help sell whatever toys they have planned for the year. I just don't see Hasbro as having that much coordinated vision for the Joe brand.
I think it is worth noting the peak of GI Joe newsculpt was late 2004, when Hasbro did a big push for Valor vs Venom including a Happy Meal promotion and Direct to DVD feature.
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09-19-2014, 08:48 PM | #26 |
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I think a Joe cartoon could work on Netflix. I wonder if they'd be better off making animated movies. Certainly, it would be cheaper to produce than an entire season of content. Animated movie to help sell whatever toys they have planned for the year. I just don't see Hasbro as having that much coordinated vision for the Joe brand.
With brands like Transformers it never seems like all the eggs are in one basket. You will have a movie year but the next year there will be a cartoon that isn't just like the movies, Generations, Rescue Robots, Mashers, Construct-Bots, and all sorts of ways that Transformers gets offered up instead of it must all be one way. GI Joe it's mostly been all movies or bust lately. While Hasbro did jump into the Kreo brand with GI Kreo it's a Toys-R-Us exclusive so outside of the traditional 3 3/4" figure isn't really reaching out to most of the general public. It's almost like Hasbro got shaken up so bad after Sigma Six that thinking outside the mold on GI Joe is something they are no longer willing to do. |
09-19-2014, 09:22 PM | #27 |
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I am surprised that no one caught that. It wouldn't hurt the Disney portfolio to have a wider appeal to the boys market. That was the whole reason they purchased Marvel and then Lucasfilm. The Lucas deal was a long time coming, also. Took a long time of negotiating and sweet talking and then finally agreeing to certain terms from Lucas himself.
In all seriousness, I spoke to a guy at Disney who was unable to confirm the merger rumors but also, was unable to deny them. And not for lack of knowledge, but for actually knowing if it was a thing or not. I probably shouldn't have been asking my friend while going through the park. Hasbro offers some areas that Disney could use for rounding out their targeting of the boys demo. And, don't forget, Hasbro wants to be a multi-media company, like Marvel decided to aggressively pursue in the early 2000s. We all know how that worked out for Disney; the Avengers franchise is printing money at this point. I don't see the end of the Hub as the end of anything that will matter in the long run. We'll all be here so obviously Joe will fight on.
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09-19-2014, 09:49 PM | #28 |
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And it's important to remember on those brands that "don't put all their eggs in one basket" is that...they did at one point. When you see brands with varying products and pricepoints outside the "traditional" product line, it's because the core line was successful. If Transformers wasn't successful, you wouldn't see Constructbots or Mashers. If TMNT wasn't successful, Playmates wouldn't have developed HalfShell Heroes to expand the the brand to the younger crowd (which was why Rescue Bots was developed) GI Joe, for varying reasons, has not had that kind of success for Hasbro to justify spending all the resources to "expand" the brand. Can't expand what isn't there to begin with.
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09-19-2014, 09:50 PM | #29 |
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I wonder what a Disney owned Joe would look like.
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09-19-2014, 10:53 PM | #30 |
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Duke would have a sparkle on his teeth when he smiles and Scarlett would have big doe eyes.
Oh, and cobra commander would come with a poison apple accessorie.
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