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10-21-2013, 09:08 PM | #21 |
Cobra Lab Rat
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It's kinda hard to have high sales of boy toys when we don't actually SEE anything for more than half of the year besides star wars. Heck, I haven't seen ANY marvel universe at my target until this month. It's been 9 months since they last restocked!!!!!
Oh well, at least they felt nice enough to send another case of Spidermen line figures (*sarcasm) |
10-21-2013, 09:11 PM | #22 |
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Yes because when the $6 G.I Joe figures at Dollar General are better than the $10 wave 1 retail figures everyone should pay more for an inferior product. Get real! We have enough figures of Duke, Snake-Eyes, Storm-Shadow, Flint, Cobra Commander, and Road Block from all the previous lines all the way back to the 25th stuff, and they were all better! If they are going to sell the same characters and jack up the prices, then they better be a lot better than the quality displayed in Retaliation's wave 1. It should also be noted that several retailers never have any intention to stock later waves where all the juicy stuff in Retaliation was. They're almost always ghost waves. Hasbro needs to either get the retailers to stop that practice, or adapt and sell wave one figures that have everything the consumer wants.
If you have to use the word "bitching" when people point out serious problems with their favorite franchises then you don't deserve the community's respect because you don't show any. The "I'm a better fan than you" mentality that you perpetuate is a cancer within any fandom and does not belong. Being a jerk won't help G.I. Joe grow and be a successful franchise. I find that to be an ironic statement. If it does become all online or club exclusive franchise, why don't you simply fork over the money? It's what you ask of others is it not? Let's recall a time when Hasbro focused on more obscure characters and troop builders BEFORE the movie fiasco that was wave 1: the later waves of 30th. These were sold in Walmarts, Targets, and other stores and they sold a ton of them. Bottom line: collectors are the main ones buying this line, the sooner Hasbro realizes this and focuses on what collectors want, the sooner they will return GI Joe to being profitable. |
10-21-2013, 09:30 PM | #23 |
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Its a real bummer that they couldn't finish 1982-1993. GI Joe we hardly knew thee.
At least it ends with the inclusion of a Wu-Tang member.
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10-21-2013, 09:33 PM | #24 |
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And don't forget that Hasbro is pretty well OUT of "obscure characters" they could still sell on nostalgia. Not too many are harking on the interwebs for Rampart or Snow Storm. Quote:
These were sold in Walmarts, Targets, and other stores and they sold a ton of them. Bottom line: collectors are the main ones buying this line, the sooner Hasbro realizes this and focuses on what collectors want, the sooner they will return GI Joe to being profitable.
If anything, 30th showed just how untenable the "focus on what collectors want" really is, with some of the weakest retail support I've seen for the line in over a decade (Seriously, 2011 was among the weakest years I've seen as a collector, with a mere 4 vehicles, and half the figures not seeing adequate retail distribution due to lack of interest from retailers). Collectors are a short term solution, it WILL get to the point that the "easy obscure characters" get done (or redone) and collectors will move on. Or as more and more collectors age out of the hobby, there will be fewer and fewer to buy the line, and unlike Transformers or Star Wars, Joe is NOT cultivating a new generation of fans. I've seen it happen with Transformers, I've seen it with Masters of the Universe. It has even happened with GI Joe (we lost a LOT of long time collectors in 2005/2006, and for all the people 25th brought into the fold, I'll readily argue we lost more than we gained, and that is reflected on the retail product)
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10-21-2013, 09:42 PM | #25 |
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I've discovered myself to be "young" by Joe collector standard, and I'm 29 (my big year WAS 1989). I've seen TMNT and Batman as the big stalwarts among my peers, more than GI Joe. The amount of collectors harking for a complete "ARAH remade" with modern construction styles are a minority within a minority. I think most casual fans will be satisfied with the guys they remember (83-87) and move on. Besides, all said and done, "Modern Era" Joes will be entering their SEVENTH year next year. In that time, more than 3/4s of the line from 1982-1986 have been touched on (good or not, most got a figure), with HUNDREDS of new and unique ideas and characters in between. Heck, ME has managed to outlast New Sculpt, which frankly had better retail support in its day!
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10-22-2013, 11:33 AM | #26 |
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It's the same problem over-and-over, Hasbro does a wave with all the characters we have, I don't buy them, you don't buy them, they clog the pegs, retailers don't stock later waves even though there is huge demand for them, and the line is considered a failure.
I'm also worried, that earnings statement implies that Hasbro is going to increase its brand worldwide, while cutting way back on expenditures. Bad news, G.I. Joe is not the brand to be reaching out to other cultures with. Hollywood is geared more international, too, so you can bet that will gum up the next movie a bit. |
10-22-2013, 11:56 AM | #27 |
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Marvel and Spiderman are crap! The figures sit there in a wasteland of sh*t! 900 Ironmans that can be assembled and reassembled and spidermans that went from cool red's and blues to colors that make the figures look like soap!
GI Joe is an amazing action figure but piss poor packaging and even poorer distribution gets it lost in the fray! GI Joe has three pegs (Now None) to IM and SM's 12! They are sold out everywhere here! Every Rock, Every Duke! WTH! |
10-22-2013, 12:00 PM | #28 |
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This right here is solid 100% TRUTH...ROC ran a lot off and we have never recovered.
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10-22-2013, 12:16 PM | #29 |
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He's talking about the shift away from 3 3/4" to the 8" Sigma 6 product. He's absolutely right though...for all the hoopla among the fandom about the 25th Anniversary and its' follow-ons, it never commanded as much shelf-space or goodwill from retailers as the "Nu-Sculpt era" product did. It took RoC to get it back to that level, and we all saw how that turned out (supply largely outstripping demand in a big way). Last edited by Jmacq1; 10-22-2013 at 12:22 PM.. |
10-22-2013, 12:17 PM | #30 |
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It's the same problem over-and-over, Hasbro does a wave with all the characters we have, I don't buy them, you don't buy them, they clog the pegs, retailers don't stock later waves even though there is huge demand for them, and the line is considered a failure.
I'm also worried, that earnings statement implies that Hasbro is going to increase its brand worldwide, while cutting way back on expenditures. Bad news, G.I. Joe is not the brand to be reaching out to other cultures with. Hollywood is geared more international, too, so you can bet that will gum up the next movie a bit. |
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