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03-26-2009, 11:22 AM | #81 |
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I, misunderstood the quote, my apologies good sir; but my point stands he doesnt bring evidence he just goes around trolling, and I didnt call him or you names so I expect the same courtesy from you, keep it civil.
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03-26-2009, 11:25 AM | #82 |
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No, and I don't have to. My portion of the evidence is provided by his stated opinion in an interview.
Larry Hama expressed a positive opinion of the movie. That is a FACT. I can provide the direct quote if you really want me to, but you seem to be familiar with the interview I'm speaking of. You have expressed that Larry Hama only expressed a positive opinion of the movie because he was paid to do so, or would suffer financial consequences for failing to do so. That is speculation without a single shred of actual evidence beyond your further speculation. The burden of proof is on YOU. |
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03-26-2009, 11:29 AM | #83 |
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so basically you cant put your money where your mouth is, for all we know you're making all this stuff up, you ask for evidence and when confronted with the same request you basically do what the dude in the Wendy's commercials does; writing FACT in all caps evidence does not make buddy.
Larry Hama stated a positive opinion of the film in an interview with generalsjoes.com. The interview is posted here if anyone cares to reference it. The specific quote in question is: Quote:
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GJ: Let’s talk about the big stuff first. You’ve been listed as a “creative consultant” on the upcoming big budget film, G.I. Joe: The Rise of COBRA. Can you be a bit more specific about what your duties were while you were on set?
LH: No. But, I saw the rough cut, and I loved it. And I am pretty picky. (I have never seen any of the GI Joe animated versions all the way through because they MADE MY TEETH HURT.) spacemonkeymafia's position is that Larry Hama's stated opinion was thus stated only because he was paid to have a positive opinion, or was threatened with financial repercussions if he failed to provide positive statements about the film. He has offered NO factual evidence to support this position. It is HIS burden to do so. Maybe you're not familiar with how debates work, but it's the job of the person holding the position to provide evidence to support it. Not the job of the person he's arguing against. As it stands, I have 1 established fact to support my position, where SMM has -zero-. I will freely admit that one bullet isn't normally enough ammunition to go to battle with...except in cases where your opponent has none. I wish I was on Hasbro's payroll, but no, the truth of the matter is that I simply don't agree with a lot of the sentiments being stated here, and am not afraid to say so. If the moderators believe that I am "trolling" then I will respect whatever limitations they wish to place on me. Sadly for many of you, it does not appear that disagreeing with you, or even vocally defending one's dissenting opinions is "trolling." At least if the lack of any warnings or other disciplinary action in my inbox is any indication. Last edited by Jmacq1; 03-26-2009 at 11:36 AM.. |
03-26-2009, 11:32 AM | #84 |
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looks to me like they transfered the main focus from snake eyes onto duke, with the history they gave duke with cobra commander and the baroness, while in the comics it was snake eyes who had a history with them. I expect that scarlett will be duke's gf in the film as well. I guess they didn't want to market a mute with a mask on as the main hero of the movie.At least they put a good amount of focus on the hottest character in the movie, the baroness, that makes up for everything else
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03-26-2009, 11:34 AM | #85 |
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Noob is not me calling you a name as much as a reference to your new status here. You haven't been here for most of the initial phase of the 25th/ME/Movie saga. I'd recommend you to chill a bit and learn what you can before trying to throw your weight around. It'll keep you from getting embarrassed. There are some folks around here that won't be so gracious in their conversations to you. BTW. Welcome aboard. |
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03-26-2009, 11:35 AM | #86 |
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No, let me spell it out quite clearly for you since apparently it's too hard to follow:
Larry Hama stated a positive opinion of the film in an interview with generalsjoes.com. The interview is posted here if anyone cares to reference it. The specific quote in question is: He re-iterates several times in the interview that he liked what he's seen of the movie so far. Unless you are now suggesting that Generalsjoes.com did NOT interview Larry Hama and that Larry Hama did not in fact speak those words, these are now established facts concerning Hama's opinion of the movie. spacemonkeymafia's position is that Larry Hama's stated opinion was thus stated only because he was paid to have a positive opinion, or was threatened with financial repercussions if he failed to provide positive statements about the film. He has offered NO factual evidence to support this position. It is HIS burden to do so. Maybe you're not familiar with how debates work, but it's the job of the person holding the position to provide evidence to support it. Not the job of the person he's arguing against. I -wish- I was on Hasbro's payroll, but no, the truth of the matter is that I simply don't agree with a lot of the sentiments being stated here, and am not afraid to say so. If the moderators believe that I am "trolling" then I will respect whatever limitations they wish to place on me. But sadly for many of you, I don't think disagreeing with you, or even vocally defending one's dissenting opinions is "trolling." Edit: I dint mean trolling as an insult, I just meant it as the definition of it, ie getting us all riled up. Last edited by cerberusrex25; 03-26-2009 at 11:42 AM.. |
03-26-2009, 11:36 AM | #87 |
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Honestly?
So What. This is one persons "review" of the "script". We have no idea how much of this stuff actually made it into the movie, or if things were changed. We know that things have been changed, some for good, some for bad. Everyone yelling about it really acomplishes nothing. It a Sommers film. What did we expect? A 100% faithfull adaptation? Never gonna happen. Some of the things we love would look absolutely horrible on a movie screen. Some of them would look great. Obviously, the review is biased, but most are. From what is says, the movie does not sound that great, but I will give it a chance. A lot of us have made up our minds, despite on really seeing 30 seconds of actual footage. I will wait and make my decision when I see it. If it sucks, I will certainly point it out. I am gonna into this with low expectations, and if it turns out OK, I may just enjoy it.
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03-26-2009, 11:37 AM | #88 |
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No, let me spell it out quite clearly for you since apparently it's too hard to follow:
Larry Hama stated a positive opinion of the film in an interview with generalsjoes.com. The interview is posted here if anyone cares to reference it. The specific quote in question is: He re-iterates several times in the interview that he liked what he's seen of the movie so far. Unless you are now suggesting that Generalsjoes.com did NOT interview Larry Hama and that Larry Hama did not in fact speak those words, these are now established facts concerning Hama's opinion of the movie. spacemonkeymafia's position is that Larry Hama's stated opinion was thus stated only because he was paid to have a positive opinion, or was threatened with financial repercussions if he failed to provide positive statements about the film. He has offered NO factual evidence to support this position. It is HIS burden to do so. Maybe you're not familiar with how debates work, but it's the job of the person holding the position to provide evidence to support it. Not the job of the person he's arguing against. I -wish- I was on Hasbro's payroll, but no, the truth of the matter is that I simply don't agree with a lot of the sentiments being stated here, and am not afraid to say so. If the moderators believe that I am "trolling" then I will respect whatever limitations they wish to place on me. But sadly for many of you, I don't think disagreeing with you, or even vocally defending one's dissenting opinions is "trolling." LOL You think this is a debate? Ha Im not Debating you dude....I think the Script sucks...CC Sucks....Sommers Sucks....Get out of here......prove to me that a big budget Hollywood Company wont go after you for saying negative crap......this isnt a comic book or a kids TV show.....this is major leagues compaired to that crap......if they will threaten a dude for his honest review of a film (Aint it cool/ clone wars) why wouldnt they sue someone they are paying for saying something bad about it? It may be front paged what he said....but this is life man people lie all the time.....I hate my job but I want talk trash about it....because it feeds me, my wife, and my kid..... Last edited by spacemonkeymafia; 03-26-2009 at 11:40 AM.. |
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03-26-2009, 11:39 AM | #89 |
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I see you fixed that response. Good, taking a second before your retort will always help give you a clearer understanding of what you are responding to, and make your responses a bit more intelligent.
Noob is not me calling you a name as much as a reference to your new status here. You haven't been here for most of the initial phase of the 25th/ME/Movie saga. I'd recommend you to chill a bit and learn what you can before trying to throw your weight around. It'll keep you from getting embarrassed. There are some folks around here that won't be so gracious in their conversations to you. BTW. Welcome aboard. |
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