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04-27-2008, 12:07 AM | #51 |
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I love when you guys give these extreme what if situations like it's something to compare to the changes to this movie. That didn't happen, so it's irrelevant. I still think the spirit of GI Joe is still there, some of you don't, that's fine.
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04-27-2008, 12:15 AM | #52 |
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I would hardly find my example "extreme". Such things have happened countless times with movies based on books/tv shows/comics/etc.
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04-27-2008, 12:19 AM | #53 |
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The only reason I used the Iron Man example is because its a great example of how to treat source material. Favrau did a lot of homework for the movie, and made it because he wanted to.
I guess I just kinda wished we woulda got the same with Gi Joe. And Ill admit, Im one of those who was 'iffy' with Transformers, but I rather enjoyed it, but mainly because Bay knows how to "blow $*@# up" and made great use of amazing effects. Sommers, imo, does not.
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04-27-2008, 12:27 AM | #54 |
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The thing is, there's only a handful of directors in Hollywood who actually care about the hardcore fans. Favreau being probably number 1. Even Christopher Nolan took the Batman series a totally different direction, but it's worked famously. It does seem like Hasbro is getting bad directors to direct their toyline movies though. Transformers was good for what it was, I expected a cheesily acted film with a lot of action, which is what we got, I still enjoyed it. I expect GI Joe to not be about the story of each character, but a lot of action and hopefully GI Joe vs Cobra at some point. We'll see though. I'm not judging anything yet.
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04-27-2008, 12:36 AM | #55 |
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I agree, its tough to find directors with any interest in the films their doing anymore.
I guess I just kinda lost it with Sommers. I really enjoyed the Mummy, but each film after that I just lost more and more interest with him. I do agree about having too much story in an action film, I just get a tad bit agrivated when a lot of the history is there (countless versions of it even) and they choose to create their own. So many times I try to explain to my nephews (who are now interested in the things I was as a kid, how cool is that) why things are so different between the histories of things like GI Joe and Transformers, I get confused myself between the generation gap. My biggest gripe isnt really about all the changes, other than the fact that I was hoping this wouldnt have that "MTV" military feel to it. The new uniforms, sure, why not, but I just want things to be pratical, not just cool looking. Throw some more pouches or ammo clips on the uniforms, make them more pratical looking, and maybe I wouldnt have been so "meh" about them. My only real serious gripe is the "superhero" snake eyes look. He looks kinda goofy with the foam formed muscle suit. Is he really supposed to be that buff, or is it all just part of the suit? I expect him to be able to fly or bash buildings with one swipe with that suit on. lol Anyhoo, its all just publicity shots anyways. More things may be added to them Im sure, its still early. Im just so "meh" over Sommers lol. (can ya tell?)
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04-27-2008, 01:20 AM | #56 |
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I agree with Reznor in saying that America is not very popular right now. Though a big chunk of the box-office revenue that will come in will come from US audiences, the movie companies would also want to get back as much return for their investment by selling well in the world market. We all have to remember that movies are products and the whole whole purpose for making them is to make money. And sticking to the original GI Joe story line might not appeal to other countries. A good example is the movie Superman Returns. They changed the famous Superman line of "Fighting for truth, justice and the American way". And they had him flying all around the world not just Metropolis. So as not to the alienate the rest of the world and appeal more to a world market. So dare we say that money dictates how a movie should go. Yes it does. Very few stick to the essence of telling the true story regardless of the outcome and unfortunately Stephen Sommers and Micheal Bay don't seem to stick to that philisophy.
Plus the fact that we have "Real American Heroes" fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our society is now so PC that we are afraid of offending anybody. Does it mean that calling the GI Joe franchise "A Real American Hero" - a fictional character fighting a fictional enemy will offend somebody who is serving int the military and laying their lives on the line, or a family member who lost a loved while serving will take offense to it? Maybe, maybe not, but why open yourself to the criticisms or possible backlash. I am not defending the changes that the script writers did (I hate it as much as you guys do), but I understand why they did it. I am still going to go see the movie and I will go see it with an open mind. Finally, just recently Micheal Bay admitted to leaking out false Transformers 2 scripts. Whats to say that the one that's leaked out there isn't fake. Though Hasbro' comment to fans was pretty vague. (Read below) Message to G.I Joe Fans Hasbro’s G.I. Joe Team wanted to take this opportunity to clarify some of the facts regarding the G.I. Joe live-action movie that we are developing with Paramount Pictures. First and foremost, we are not changing what the G.I. Joe brand is about. The name “G.I. Joe” will always be synonymous with bravery and heroism. The G.I. Joe brand has enjoyed a successful 43-year history, spanning two key generations. The first was the line of 12-inch “realistic military” figures that were popular with kids in the 1960s and 1970s. The second generation, was created in 1982, and is based on a cast of fictional heroes and villains that make up the “G.I. Joe vs. Cobra” fantasy. The premise of this fantasy is the story of the G.I. Joe team, led by Duke, and their “fight for freedom wherever there is trouble” against the evil Cobra Commander and his Cobra force. This storyline was an instant hit with kids in the early 1980s, spawning a highly popular 3-3/4-inch action figure line, comic book collection and animated series. This movie will be a modern telling of the “G.I. Joe vs. Cobra” storyline and its compelling characters that Hasbro created 25 years ago. The G.I. Joe team will not be based in Brussels. Instead, they will be based out of the “Pit” as they were throughout the 1980s comic book series. And, in keeping with the G.I. Joe vs. Cobra fantasy, the movie will feature characters and locations from around the world. Duke, the lead character and head of the G.I. Joe team, will embody the values of bravery and heroism that the first generation of G.I. Joe figures established. G.I. Joe is a very important property to Hasbro and we thank all of our fans for their enthusiasm. Without all of you, the brand would not be where it is today. Thank you." Last edited by Ixz72; 04-27-2008 at 09:38 AM.. |
04-27-2008, 01:34 AM | #57 |
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Yeah, I will still watch the movie with a open mind but I really hope they keep true to what GI Joe stands for.
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04-27-2008, 02:50 AM | #58 |
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Whats to say that the one that's leaked out there is fake.
Also the adaptations, scripts, drafts and what not for the Transformers movie were different than the actual movie. Also the script for the G.I. Joe movie has been rewritten at least 2-3 times. |
10-22-2008, 11:11 AM | #59 |
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I don't need to hear this about the upcoming movie.
NO! Are you on a cell phone? I'm hanging up,now. PRANK CALLER-Prank caller -PRANK CALLER! Last edited by mackdawg77; 10-22-2008 at 11:17 AM.. |
11-09-2008, 03:24 PM | #60 |
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do a quick trip to Wiki and check out the movie...they have links to interviews for those who have trouble believing wiki...
anyway, they pretty much admitted, contrary to what all the 'experts' on here in the movie industry have said, that Hama came in and NIXXED the 'sanke eyes talking' scenario. hopefully, that is a good sign. the interview i read said that he was brought in to help the movie makers bring their story closer to something that the hard core fans would want to see... a good sign that they do care about our opinions. |
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