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03-07-2008, 12:31 AM | #21 |
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wow, irid...where to start?
1.) Hasbro has owned G.I. Joe the whole time...they LICENSED it to marvel, giving them permission to publish the comic. same as hasbro did with transformers. 2.) marvel can't republish anything because HASBRO owns the rights. Quote:
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4.) if you're not one of those loyal fans who want the core of the franchise to be preserved, then I am not, nor have i ever spoken for you. don't get so touchy.
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5.) if it were the baroness, it wouldn't be her taking advantage...it would be me manipulating the situation.
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7.) i know action force wasn't british...not sure about the 'Real argentinian heroes' out there. [quote=Crimson Guard 51] 8.) the spiderman animated show? all of them? NOPE...you forgot those Spider friends from the 80's...NO MJ...remember the real life stuff...no MJ...but, i understand what you're saying...MJ and Spiderman ARE part of Spiderman...they weren't together in the beginning...he had MANY...he was a SpideyHO...but, MJ and Spidey is huge...Snake Eyes and Scarlett are just as connected in their world and can be just as huge after this movie, or the trilogy, with the toys, the film adaptations, etc. plus the people that might pick up the comic line. Ok, one TV series (though they used aspects of her personality for a character). Sure, it's fun to project that Joe will be that huge, but my initial comments were to point out that, currently, G.I. Joe is nowhere near that big. And this has focused on Spider-Man; the original comments included Batman and Superman. Quote:
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AHD...how great would it be to have aspects out there that connect 2 different generations of G.I. Joe fans? not only would it be good entertainment, it'd be good for the franchise, and great business. Quote:
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9.) you found me out...i'm really just mad that they didn't pick me to write the thing...i HATE change...
actually, i quite like it...but change for the sake of change is BAD...don't care what Barrack says. Quote:
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there are things about G.I. Joe that shouldn't be changed...ARAH is one, since they are american and are based on the ideals that created the country.
scarlett and snake eyes is another, due to the longevity and the fact that everything since '82 has had them together, including many toy parts, etc. Quote:
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it's possible to keep the major parts of the story and change other parts...
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03-07-2008, 12:46 AM | #22 |
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I didn't read this second page, but all I have to say is:
I liked X-Men as a kid. I saw the movies, I enjoyed them, but I also groaned. Too many icons left out, too many good stories swept under the rug. It was enjoyable though, because liked X-Men. I LOVED GiJoe. It was my childhood. I had my own continuity that was different than the cartoons, different than the comics, different than anything, so no matter what they do, they can't please me. I bet hundreds of thousands of us have our own continuities that they can't pander to. I know no matter what, if I see this movie, I'm going to leave with my head to the ground, shaking back and forth. Because of that, I probably won't go to this movie. I won't grouse about it much, because I know they can't pander to the myriad different continuities out there. I never had dusty, so he was never a part of my joe team. GiJoe was too important to me, and I'll wait until I see the previews, but there's nothing too compelling about this movie for me yet. |
03-07-2008, 01:03 AM | #23 |
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1.) wiki is quite wrong. you go back and look at the comics from the 80's and 90's, and they clearly state that Hasbro owns the franchise.
WIKI is fun...also easily changed. i'm a registered contributor. ask me to change something, i'll go change it to prove it. done it before to prove a bet...course, i go change it back. it pisses them off though. 2.) are you sure about action force? if so, i'll stand corrected...as i said, i have NO idea about the "real argentinian hero..." i do remember reading letters to the comic from foreign fans, about ARAH. 3.) i didn't mean to say you weren't LOYAL...let me try again...there are some of us loyal fans ( i think the majority ) that want to see the movie stick more closely to the spirit of the comic, that has been here longer, was USED by the cartoon guys as inspiration, and was used to write the file cards...in other worlds...what RAH spawned from. 4.) what i said about the other characters, batman, superman, etc, was about couples, not the characters themselves...MJ has NOT always been that big of a character. go look for interview with Stan Lee about it. they tried to get rid of her. they used others. hell, in the movie, she's more like gwen stacy than the comic MJ. 5.) there's a chance that kids today wouldn't get those characters...a small one if marketted right. remember, the guys in hollywood that make all that money said "the Passion" wouldn't make it...who wants to see a movie where the dialogue is in aramaic and hebrew and have to read the script? it'll never work...the END of Mel Gibson. Hollywood is NOTORIOUS for NOT knowing what the public wants. how about all of those movies about the US military or Govt gone crazy...the war on terror being used to violate people's rights...what did they do? about $148 the first nigth. what movies make money? movies with good old american values...good and bad...movies that you can take the family to. they make MILLIONS. GI Joe can do the same. that being said, i wouldn't want it to be as cheesy as the tv show, but if word got out that there was a movie about the good guys vs the bad guys and lots of action, people would come. |
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03-07-2008, 07:33 AM | #24 |
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Kids in Argentina want Argentinian heroes.
Kids in Argentina DO NOT want argentinian heroes. I know I didn't as a kid. I sure didn't know back in the day that Glenda, Manleh and all those argentinian variations were actually argentinian-only happenings. Matter of fact, I thought they all sucked, except for Cobra Invasor and Cobra Mortal. I actually always wanted the original U.S. imports. HA! Many (if not most) countries around the world are nowhere as patriotic as the U.S... However, I DO embrace the concept of G.I.Joe being an international special force. I think it makes much more sense.
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03-07-2008, 09:07 AM | #25 |
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Well I happen to live in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I just HAD to reply to this!!!
Kids in Argentina DO NOT want argentinian heroes. I know I didn't as a kid. I sure didn't know back in the day that Glenda, Manleh and all those argentinian variations were actually argentinian-only happenings. Matter of fact, I thought they all sucked, except for Cobra Invasor and Cobra Mortal. I actually always wanted the original U.S. imports. HA! Many (if not most) countries around the world are nowhere as patriotic as the U.S... However, I DO embrace the concept of G.I.Joe being an international special force. I think it makes much more sense. I'm not sure why there is such resistance to the idea of an international team...well, I think I know why but I don't really wanna go into it...I actually think it is a much more interesting idea than an American only force. There are LOTS of top-flight special forces units around the world, some with different methods, tactics, equipment, training than US versions. Why wouldn't a team like GI Joe draw from all of them?
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03-07-2008, 09:27 AM | #26 |
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Oh I wasn't offended at all. Just thought I'd share that as an argentinian I was never really against G.I.Joe being "A Real American Hero".
As for why I didn't like the argentinian toys: Yeah, they were cheaper than the original U.S. imports. Cheaper plastic, cheaper paint apps, cheaper everything. Besides, there were many key characters that were never released here. We got Destro but no CC, Baroness, Firefly, Zartan, etc. It was just weird like that. All aside... I always kinda thought of G.I.Joe as an international opertation STARTED by the U.S. That's the vibe I'm getting: while it has members from all over the world, it's something sorta organized by the U.S. I mean... General Hawk's american and he's the head of the operation.
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03-07-2008, 09:51 AM | #27 |
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I would stay away from this topic, several people have been banned for discussing it.
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03-07-2008, 10:00 AM | #28 |
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Wait...
Was Hawk actually american in the script? *giggles* Anyways... just relax. I'm sure the essence of things will be there, even if G.I.Joe stands for Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity. But while we're at it, if they are changing the characters' countries of origin, HASBRO: Make someone argentinian!!! And for the record... there was one argentinian "Joe" (?): Dynamite from Sgt. Savage!
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03-07-2008, 06:09 PM | #29 |
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gi joe was american, run by the US government, through the pentagon. in EVERY fashion it's ever been, it's been that way.
sure, have international members like big ben, etc, but they would be working FOR the U.S. an international force couldn't move as fast as G.I. Joe will in this flick, the way it's being described. too many governments involved... but, it's a movie... i'm not sure it's really about G.I. Joe, the more i read. |
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