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12-29-2021, 10:37 PM | #11 |
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I?d get Michael Mann to direct and Jon Favreau as the scriptwriter. No point rewriting ROC, it sucked. Start all over. Again.
Mann can get gunfights to look so real the military uses them to demonstrate a fighting retreat. Favreau writes amazing stories. |
12-29-2021, 10:40 PM | #12 |
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12-29-2021, 10:41 PM | #13 |
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12-29-2021, 11:20 PM | #14 |
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01-04-2022, 07:03 PM | #15 |
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Throw away roc script. Insert Marvel Gi joe #1. Job done. They should hire me. I could give them a script in as long as it takes me to get issue 1 out of my comic box. Hama even wrote from a visual perspective, so already done with the visual medium in mind. The comic is literally the storyboard. Costumes, set, plot, characterization. All there. Makes you wonder why they would go through so much trouble to make such a bizarre departure from the established and well liked mythos.
To be binging old cartoons is not my style or a normal habit for me. But for some reason I couldn't stop watching this one. After some thought it occurred to me that it is purely and energetic interpretation of the original comics. There is much storytelling license taken, but they aren't trying to "fix" the X-Men. They took the Jim Lee aesthetic (very roughly) of the day, used the exact team which kids would find in the contemporary comic, and then filled each episode with all the batshit crazy plots and colorful wacky costumes you should expect. There are 2 second cameos all the time, War Machine just saved a girl without any context given, Spider-Man's hand was shown but he was off panel. The creators of that took something they loved and made it authentic. The storylines all happen differently than in the comics and out of order so they aren't hung up on technicalities, but they infuse each plotline with as much of the source material as possible. Banshee just showed up and he was not a huge emotional problem for Xavier, he was just the new boyfriend of his ex and was a reasonable guy. They didn't even have to explain him. An episode I watched last night surprised me by having a monster villain I didn't recognize. I was confused that I couldn't place him since my X-Men lore is so strong, so I looked it up. He was a monster from an old black and white film, as a one-episode creator homage. Then, as a result of the battle with this creature, The Phoenix Saga began immediately afterwards. It's all this well sculpted narrative. GiJoe can absolutely be that. It has a very deep lore. These three gigantic film fails didn't have to happen, they just need to stop trying to fix GiJoe. It ain't broke.
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01-04-2022, 07:11 PM | #16 |
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I agree. I'm an 80's kid but the 90's really had it going on with X-Men, Spidey and Batman cartoons. I was in high school and college for most of it, but I remember being impressed with how "adult" they seemed at the time, especially Batman having people die and villains using actual machine guns and shotguns instead of lasers.
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01-04-2022, 07:14 PM | #17 |
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The Joes and Cobra are too sophisticated for live-action filmmaking. ROC could've been great fun in a Sunbow or Marvel continuity. Every voice actor in the cartoon series, save Sgt. Slaughter, was better than the main cast of live-action actors.
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01-04-2022, 08:38 PM | #18 |
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Slaughter is very quotable, especially in the movie.
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01-04-2022, 11:22 PM | #19 |
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Quotable. (At ease, disease.) But, playing one's self in a movie doesn't make a performer an actor. That's what we got from the Rock, and the film suffered for it. Those voice actors who were out there doing 3-5 characters per series ran circles around the "names" of the Paramount films.
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01-04-2022, 11:54 PM | #20 |
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I think about this all the time. It could have been a really good Joe movie, but instead is just a fun action movie that is kinda dumb.
Drop all the Baroness - Duke story and drop the Duke - Rex garbage (basically all the flashback junk). Boom. Much better movie! |
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