|
|
Thread Tools |
08-03-2022, 06:46 PM | #81 |
Iron Grenadier
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 788
|
Destro was supposed to stand apart from Cobra and his file card points to it. He's a faction to himself.
|
08-03-2022, 09:38 PM | #82 |
Crimson Nerd
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12,573
|
Quote:
ARAH in '82 was styled as the military of the near future. The Hasbro designers visited the U.S. military's R&D facilities to get ideas. This is my ideal version of G.I. Joe.
The space stuff I'm not so crazy about, but I'd take it over the supernatural (including ninja hocus-pocus) any day. And that's really what kills me about Rise of Cobra. It had a lot going for it on paper. A director that seemed well-suited to the material, the #1 guy that pretty much everyone had said should play Snake-Eyes for years in the role, arguably the best Destro casting you could have gotten at the time, and a solid, experienced actor that most fans seemed pleased with to play Hawk. Sienna Miller killed it in terms of looking the part (once she was made up, of course), and in what would prove to be a pattern for GI Joe live-action films so far, they had a show-stealing Storm Shadow. The tech was all "A few years into the future" which as noted, has often been Joe's "thing." The plot outline plays out almost beat-for-beat like an old Sunbow mini-series. But then you had a miscast Duke (Woulda killed as Falcon, though), an unnecessary comic-relief shoe-in, taking the tech a smidge too far (with the Accelerator Suits), a lot of plot induced stupidity (Why are we putting the rookies in this no doubt ridiculously expensive tech to go chase bad guys when some of our veteran members are right there?), and some poor chemistry between characters...and that...whatever it was that was supposed to be Cobra Commander. It just didn't gel (Also coulda used 100% more classic-ish vehicles even if I liked the Cobra VTOL thing). Quote:
There were a lot of Cobra individuals that were basically written up as being mercenaries and freelancers, but for all the talk that implied "standing apart" a whole bunch of them ended up with Cobra logos on their clothes (and stamped on their cardbacks). |
08-03-2022, 09:38 PM | #83 |
Iron Grenadier
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Quezon City, Philippines
Posts: 819
|
Quote:
Quote:
YES! He loves the military already, really knows how to do action, loves explosions like a kid and he brings in a lot of money.
__________________
|
08-04-2022, 11:48 AM | #84 |
Iron Grenadier
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 788
|
Quote:
Well, once we got the Iron Grenadiers, yeah. But prior to that all the media basically presented him as Cobra Commander's exasperated second-in-command (or maybe third-in-command depending on where you view the Baroness as being in the command structure). He showed more independence in the comics but even then seemed pretty inextricably linked to Cobra as an organization until he split off on his own.
There were a lot of Cobra individuals that were basically written up as being mercenaries and freelancers, but for all the talk that implied "standing apart" a whole bunch of them ended up with Cobra logos on their clothes (and stamped on their cardbacks). Filecard says, "He dons his silver battle mask (a family tradition) and enters the battle himself, either with COBRA Command (Destro is their major weapons supplier) or against them if its better for business." I'd also argue the figure packaging (card art/filecard) trumps all licensed media in terms of information. The reason Destro stands apart is he was his own man. |
08-05-2022, 08:59 PM | #85 |
Boom
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Classified
Posts: 4,761
|
Quote:
Its pretty simple, if you have a Cobra logo on your figure. You are Cobra. Destro did not. Guys like Firefly, Wild Weasel, Storm Shadow, Scrap Iron did.
Filecard says, "He dons his silver battle mask (a family tradition) and enters the battle himself, either with COBRA Command (Destro is their major weapons supplier) or against them if its better for business." I'd also argue the figure packaging (card art/filecard) trumps all licensed media in terms of information. The reason Destro stands apart is he was his own man. But I do know putting it back closer to the ARAH start, and the year Destro was released into the line, he was pretty much a Cobra 2nd in command as J said. With that being said, I am a little confused why you brought this point up? I mentioned Destro in my conversation to AWOL. Your comment followed mine, so I am left to assume that your comments were meant to counter mine. However, my point about Destro was that he was one of the earliest examples of Hasbro bringing elements of sci fi into the universe. Destro, a member of Cobra, or his own thing, the point remains. Hasbro was putting things of a sci fi nature early on in ARAH.
__________________
Feedback: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-se...-feedback.html More Feedback: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-se...-saboteur.html |
08-29-2022, 05:41 PM | #86 |
Crimson Guard
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brazil,Rio de janeiro
Posts: 2,995
|
Hasbro is responsible for that.
|
08-30-2022, 11:59 AM | #87 |
Crimson Guard
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder
Posts: 1,559
|
I wonder if at any point in the early design of Destro perhaps he was based on Bulletman?
__________________
9/1/22 - A Day Which Will Live in Infamy Steevy Maximus - "that Nazi imagery was quaint" |
08-30-2022, 12:37 PM | #88 |
Just a fan
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 8,508
|
|
01-13-2023, 07:07 AM | #89 |
Ne Plus Ulta
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 4,610
|
Lorenzo di Bonaventura simply doesn't "get," G.I. JOE. He thinks that he can do with G.I. JOE the same thing he did with Transformers and that is get somebody to write a bullshit piss poor script, hire a director, make a bullshit movie, and people will flock to see it. The thing is G.I. JOE doesn't have the allure of giant robos to compel people to see the film.
Whether JOE project is a military fantasy, sci-fi, clock-and-dagger spy thriller or based in the Sunbow universe a G.I. JOE (especially after putting up three bricks at the box office,) has to have an exceptionally good story.
__________________
Last edited by Fred Broca; 01-13-2023 at 09:56 AM.. |
01-13-2023, 09:23 AM | #90 |
Just a fan
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 8,508
|
Quote:
Lorenzo di Bonaventura simply doesn't "get," G.I. JOE. He thinks that he can do with G.I. JOE the same thing he did with Transformers and that is get somebody to write a bullshit piss poor script, hire a director, and make a bullshit movie, and people will flock to see it. The thing is G.I. JOE doesn't have the allure of giant robos to compell people to see the film.
Whether JOE project is a military fantasy, sci-fi, clock-and-dagger spy thriller or based in the Sunbow universe a G.I. JOE (especially after putting up three bricks at the box office,)has to have an exceptionally good story. |
Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
I Hate To See Someone Get Taken | Everett | G.I. Joe Toys Vintage Discussion | 81 | 08-06-2013 01:14 AM |
I hate... | drunknmunky | General Discussion | 88 | 12-05-2011 03:10 PM |
I hate my job!!! | HissCommander | General Discussion | 50 | 11-21-2008 08:01 AM |
|
|