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10-15-2010, 11:34 PM | #21 |
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That is HUGE and I love it!!
It was a different time. It was cool to be a super-patriot. It was fashionable to love America. We were associated with "good" and "strong"....as a kid in the 80's I KNEW America was a super power. Movies had Stallone fighting and beating the Reds in the ring, and again in Afghanistan. We had Entertech guns to emulate Rambo, Commando, Delta Force and G.I.Joe right in our backyards. Cartoons were on right after school and I can't think of a single kid that did not make a point to get home and watch them......then it was homework. Kids BELIEVED Duke was a leader and Rocky beating Drago was "right". Now...add in the fact what the toys were doing in our day and you have the idea. If you could see what a TRU looked like in 1987...then right now, those are 2 very different places. Video games, internet...9 yr olds with cell phones and facebook have flat out beaten the idea of having epic battles on your bed or back yard. It's just a different time. The more I go out and look for toys, which is often...the more I see things, some things I don't even know about and I think...."there is no way this is for a 10 yr old kid!...toys are for 30 yr olds who had them as kids and appreciate them again now" Thats just my overall feeling. |
10-15-2010, 11:35 PM | #22 |
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Commercials....why no commercials? You can't sell kids toys if they don't know about them. I hope Renegades changes all this. They will have a very much needed cartoon and if Hasbro is smart they will have commercials for all the new GI Joe Renegades toys.
all the comments have been very good and on point in this thread. I'd be with you on this if the commercials were on facebook, ipod touch or via text message. We got commercials for figures while watching cartoons..among other things. Kids today are not sitting in front of the TV in the same way we were anxiously awaiting another episode. Also...I can clearly remember anxiously awaiting toy commercials!! When a new figure or vehicle came on tv...my heart stopped for a second, then it's all I would think about. Seeing TV commercials for Joes was on the same level as finding out your favorite arcade game was comming home to NES. These things just don't happen anymore. |
10-15-2010, 11:35 PM | #23 |
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I think when I was a kid we had less things to overwhelm us, you had to use your imagination, now, everything is there for you, no imagination needed, I built models, made outside dios 4 my 12" joes, and played in tree forts, creeks and fished, now its just phones, drugs, sex,vidio games, American kids dont have a chance anymore, parents suck, politics suck, Rent the movie grown ups. pretty much says it all. I take my kids camping, fishing, offroading, make time for toys, some vidio games and some tv, and they love to play outside with sticks and rocks, I hope they do the same for thier kids, they like joes, but love legos, and spend hours playing and customizing them both, we have thousands of toys in this house, and I hope I never grow up!!! All you tankers have to pass as much of you as you can to your kids, save them from all the crap thats out there,I will never need an Iphone, don't ever want one, I'll use my Imagination instead, but sooner or later it will be cramed down my throat, like everything else.
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10-15-2010, 11:43 PM | #24 |
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I'd be with you on this if the commercials were on facebook, ipod touch or via text message.
We got commercials for figures while watching cartoons..among other things. Kids today are not sitting in front of the TV in the same way we were anxiously awaiting another episode. Also...I can clearly remember anxiously awaiting toy commercials!! When a new figure or vehicle came on tv...my heart stopped for a second, then it's all I would think about. Seeing TV commercials for Joes was on the same level as finding out your favorite arcade game was comming home to NES. These things just don't happen anymore. I did get it and it was a great toy except they never made a big bad guy to fight so you had this great big Voltron and no one to fight. |
10-15-2010, 11:46 PM | #25 |
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So true. I remember seeing the 1st commercial for the new Voltron toy. I can't tell you the excitement I felt. I would sit watching TV just waiting for another chance to see that commercial.
I did get it and it was a great toy except they never made a big bad guy to fight so you had this great big Voltron and no one to fight. Hopefully with HUB and the new Toon this will bring some of that back and open up a few new eyes to fun and imagination. I'm hoping that programing will do something awesome like follow Renegades with an episode of ARAH....that would be great. |
10-16-2010, 12:06 AM | #26 |
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I think when I was a kid we had less things to overwhelm us, you had to use your imagination, now, everything is there for you, no imagination needed, I built models, made outside dios 4 my 12" joes, and played in tree forts, creeks and fished, now its just phones, drugs, sex,vidio games, American kids dont have a chance anymore, parents suck, politics suck, Rent the movie grown ups. pretty much says it all. I take my kids camping, fishing, offroading, make time for toys, some vidio games and some tv, and they love to play outside with sticks and rocks, I hope they do the same for thier kids, they like joes, but love legos, and spend hours playing and customizing them both, we have thousands of toys in this house, and I hope I never grow up!!! All you tankers have to pass as much of you as you can to your kids, save them from all the crap thats out there,I will never need an Iphone, don't ever want one, I'll use my Imagination instead, but sooner or later it will be cramed down my throat, like everything else.
"we didn't need army men toys to pretend. we would go outside and throw rocks at each other and call them cannonballs. and we didn't need a TV to tell us what we should buy..." I got an Atari 2400 one year and didn't do anything else for a few years... and a bunch of the tankers here must play the crap out of some video games today. And a lot of the appeal of gi joe is that they rocked high tech stuff. there is so many problems with attention spans and direction with kids that has more to do with education and protection. I have a 9 yer old girl, and to be honest, we work a lot and she has to go from place to place where she can't bring her barbie dream house with her, just a DS in her pocket... And she isn't going outside all day like I did because I can't let her due to the creeps. But she has a nice littlest pet shops collection and some really cool air hogs stuff that reminds me of the R/C craze from our day. None of us want to come to terms with the fact that the 1980's is now what the 1950's were when we were growing up. Look at movies like Back to the Future. If it were made today, Calvin Cline would be called Ed Hardy because of his underwear and the time machine would be a kia soul or whatever. they would go back in time to "the good old days" and there would be a videogame parlor at a mall they'd hang at instead of a soda shop. MTV would get made fun of the whole movie, and justin Bibeir (sp?) would be the star. AND the prom would be an epic break dancing scene.... they probably are remaking it as we speak. kids aren't stupid, they will adapt to the mess we leave 'um just like we did. I am just partial to the time because everything was so new and exciting... now it's their turn to feel that way. It's our job to make sure they know about our history and what we did with our free time |
10-16-2010, 12:17 AM | #27 |
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GI Joe isn't popular anymore because of the way they've been handling the franchise. They're doing everything wrong. It could be as huge as Transformers & Star Wars if they handled it right, but they don't.
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10-18-2010, 04:22 PM | #28 |
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I think G.I.Joe also caught on around the time Americans were beginning to deal with the Vietnam legacy, and were beginning to see the Vietnam veterans with a little more sympathy - the Vietnam Veterans Memorial was unveiled in ''83 I think, and many of the significant Vietnam movies can out between '86 and '89 or so. So while it may be true that post 9/11 America isn't the best socio-political environment in which to sell US military toys to kids, the exact same thing could be said about say, 1966-1980.
And don't forget the international market too. Not only were Americans far more comfortable with American soldiers as heroes in the 1980s, at the height of the Cold War, but that idea was also much more palatable to kids in other parts of the world. I grew up in Northern Europe, and back in the '80s it was totally cool to dig the US military. Not so much now. |
10-18-2010, 05:23 PM | #29 |
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we are at war TWO wars to be exact .
in the 80's war was the last thing on peoples minds. the economy was great people were spending money gi.joes were seen as heroes today soldiers are seen as villains the toys were a hit before the cartoon and comics those just helped them reach more people. war toys in general have highs and lows |
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