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06-08-2010, 02:00 AM | #11 |
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I think it would start with an executive order from the President. He would meet with top commanders from all branches of the military, DOD, Homeland Security, and others. They would discuss the best way to create such an organization.
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06-08-2010, 02:00 AM | #12 |
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Yeah in my mind, the closest to a real world scenario is a Marine Expeditionary Unit. Marine Expeditionary Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It allows for the SF capable Direct Action element, along with Air Support and combined arms. One could even imagine the USS Flagg as a quasi amphibious carrier. Agreed it prob would work with a structure of a meu, but id lean more toward something like JTF 6 where the Marines conducted counter drug smuggling ops along with other services along the border and in californias national forests. In that way they would have dentention athority, they could also have members of the DHS assigned to them. And if the flagg was like a huge amphib well damn that would be cool. just think of it launching the landing cfrat from the marvel run but a few and packed with mauler tanks, and vamps
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06-08-2010, 02:15 AM | #13 |
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I'm not edumacated enough to give a proper answer or thought on this, but I sure do love this thread topic.
I'm sure any thought I would throw out there right now would be chewed up and spit back at me by all you government and military experts on this here board. I'd simply say, it would be the secret Military (land,sea,air,space) force that we (civilians) do not know about, and it out ranks all other forces. No one knows where entitilitus comes from or what entitilitus is, but entitilitus kills.
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06-08-2010, 02:16 AM | #14 |
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Yeah in my mind, the closest to a real world scenario is a Marine Expeditionary Unit. Marine Expeditionary Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It allows for the SF capable Direct Action element, along with Air Support and combined arms. One could even imagine the USS Flagg as a quasi amphibious carrier. (Go Fighting 13th!!) But to shed some light, MEUs are usually Marine and Navy. On joint task force missions, we often work with other branches (and foreign branches) but the overall command structure stays within the Navy or Marine Corps. When all is said and done, we answer to a commanding officer in the branch we serve. The only exceptions to that are campaign commanders who are delegated by the President. Now Joes in real life... That's a can of worms that is completely open to speculation. If you read the latest comic fiction, the Joes are secret agency resembling Black Ops or some independent agency like CIA. For me, this just doesn't sound realistic. A fleet of top grade equipment given to a large team the best soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen and it's completely under the blanket. There's just too many checks and balances in government and way too many "peeping eyes" for something the scale of the Joe team to go unnoticed. Maybe the original 13, with a limited amount of vehicle support, but not a team of over 100 (not including greenshirts and vehicles). It's not only unlikely, but unrealistic... But again, we're talking comic book fiction. In my years though, I've always seen them as a SpecOps organization that is specialized in counter-terrorism. Of which, is completely plausible in the real world. In a sense, they are a branch all their own. With their own training program, R&D department, and intelligence. Everything down to payroll (Lady Jaye's secondary MOS is personnel clerk). Their missions are Top Secret much like any other SpecOps organization. But the Joes are given the missions in which require the highest of high levels of security. So in this, they aren't allowed to talk about it or simply have to create lies to cover it up and for this are given certain benefits (such as uniform regs, experimental equipment, etc).
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06-08-2010, 02:25 AM | #15 |
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Hell yah's for MEUs!!!
(Go Fighting 13th!!) But to shed some light, MEUs are usually Marine and Navy. On joint task force missions, we often work with other branches (and foreign branches) but the overall command structure stays within the Navy or Marine Corps. When all is said and done, we answer to a commanding officer in the branch we serve. The only exceptions to that are campaign commanders who are delegated by the President. Now Joes in real life... That's a can of worms that is completely open to speculation. If you read the latest comic fiction, the Joes are secret agency resembling Black Ops or some independent agency like CIA. For me, this just doesn't sound realistic. A fleet of top grade equipment given to a large team the best soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen and it's completely under the blanket. There's just too many checks and balances in government and way too many "peeping eyes" for something the scale of the Joe team to go unnoticed. Maybe the original 13, with a limited amount of vehicle support, but not a team of over 100 (not including greenshirts and vechicles. It not only unlikely, but unrealistic... But again, we're talking comic book fiction. In my years though, I've always seen them as a SpecOps organization that is specialized in counter-terrorism. Of which, is completely plausible in the real world. In a sense, they are a branch all their own. With their own training program, R&D department, and intelligence. Everything down to payroll (Lady Jaye's secondary MOS is personnel clerk). Their missions are Top Secret much like any other SpecOps organization. But the Joes are given the missions in which require the highest of high levels of security. So in this, they aren't allowed to talk about it or simply have to create lies to cover it up and for this are given certain benefits (such as uniform regs, experimental equipment, etc). In my 'verse they're military and organized like a quasi MEU with some DOHS and CIA elements, kinda based on what Zulu Delta did in his thread Last edited by Tyroc; 06-08-2010 at 02:28 AM.. |
06-08-2010, 02:52 AM | #16 |
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I think it would made up of Members of Seals, Marine Recon, Delta, Green Beret, Airborn Rangers, AirForce Special Forces, CIA maybe a couple FBI, British SAS and MI5, and maybe some Israeli special forces. Oh, and Me.
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06-08-2010, 02:54 AM | #17 |
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I think they would us Air Force and Navy air support and Army Ground and Helo support. They would just ride on the carriers not own them.
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06-08-2010, 03:05 AM | #18 |
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And not just recon im pretty sure they would have some regualar marine grunts too i mean we do wear greenshirts..... and as to the oother post, they might be able to reallocate military assests to assist them like a sub or something like that idk its cool to pretend
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06-08-2010, 03:14 AM | #19 |
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OH, and Me thats good .
And not just recon im pretty sure they would have some regualar marine grunts too i mean we do wear greenshirts..... and as to the oother post, they might be able to reallocate military assests to assist them like a sub or something like that idk its cool to pretend But yah... Hell, in the OG13 the infantryman was a greenshirt named Grunt. Even in the real military, anybody E-4 and above can volunteer themselves for special duties (SpecOps being in that category). That is if they meet the requirements.
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06-08-2010, 03:21 AM | #20 |
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It would be impossible for the Joes to exist in the real world in exactly the same way they do in the comics and cartoons - the crazy costume-uniforms, the crazy vehicles (A Space Shuttle? Really?), etc.
However, the total roster for the Joe Team is just over 200 characters. That's almost the reported size of the Army's Intelligence Support Activity (Also Known As: Grey Fox, Centre Spike, The Secret Army of Northern Virginia, etc.) This model of a Tier 1 Special Operations Unit (like Delta, DevGru, and the ISA) that falls under the jurisdiction of US SOCOM seems the most plausible. However, considering that the roster of the Joe team is made up of members from all branches, and taking into account the fact that the Joes have to be able to operate within the boarders of the United States, it would seem that they would need to be organized outside of the normal military chain-of-command. Thank being said, the most logical place for a military unit like that would be to put it under the D.I.A. This allows the Defense Department to keep tabs on it, and to fill it's roster, but it frees it from the constraints and oversight of a normal military unit. As for how the unit is structured internally - I think Delta Force probably offers the best model for how a unit like that might work. However, given that the Joe Team also incorporates members from the Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard - it's likely that the Delta Model would need to be modified to accomodate a smaller, more diversely qualified roster. Selection and Training for this Joe unit would be another matter altogether - again, the established Delta/SAS model of physical fitness, land navigation, and psychological evaluation are time tested and would probably provide a model that the Joe team could adapt as a base line and add to given their unique mission parameters. While I have great respect for the U.S. Marine Corps, it is organized for a much larger number of troops and a much different mission. If anything, the Royal Marines might come closer to the mark as a model for the Joes. They are far more like a Special Operations force than the entire USMC. Certainly the MSOBs of MARSOC are very impressive, but that is a small portion of the entire USMC. Delta/DevGRU/SAS/SBS/ISA/SRR are probably far better indications and examples of what a real Joe unit might be like.
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