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05-30-2010, 09:39 PM | #1 |
INDUSTRIAL NOISE MARINE
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just as the title says.....have games consoles and current affairs killed gi joe???
with modern military forces in the newspapers/on tv daily,have modern children become too well educated in the realism of war to "make believe" in gi joe?? and are computer games where you "become" the hero stealing our imagination,instead of encouraging it?? do many children actually still play the way many of us used to?? or has our quick fix/next new trend culture deprieved kids of the chance to bond with and actually play with their toys??
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05-30-2010, 09:40 PM | #2 |
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simply, yes.
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05-30-2010, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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I would say toys in general I have thought to myself befoe that I'm surprise that toys are even made anymore! Could u image walking into walmart or target and there where no toys
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05-30-2010, 10:11 PM | #4 |
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Yes, I loved my Sega and NES but I played Joe (and occasionally C.O.P.S. and TransFormers) for HOURS and HOURS. But I have noticed my nephew plays PS3 all the time,he has to be threatened to turn it off, but he did pick up some $4 Joes @ Big Lots today and was having a blast with them .
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05-30-2010, 10:14 PM | #5 |
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yeah iv noticed this with my nephew,he loves star wars clone wars, yet never touches any of the figures iv bought him,he just plays it on his DS over and over again....
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05-30-2010, 10:17 PM | #6 |
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I know a few kids who in the past year or two have just crossed into "teenagehood" and they never really had a bond to their toys nor did they ever really have any, shall we say, "direction" to their playing.
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05-30-2010, 10:18 PM | #7 |
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Modern times may have dampened the industry, but it's not dead. Not yet anyways.
My girls are too young for video games, but they do have leapsters. They still make full use of their imaginations, their dolls, and various other toys and action figures. Just 10 minutes ago I was watching them role play Star Wars the Clone Wars with their cousins. When I tried to give the finer points to my 4 year old who was R2-D2, she wasn't interested in any details outside the cartoon. Play is still there. Imagination is still there. Parents just have to be there encouriging it.
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05-30-2010, 10:54 PM | #8 |
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with modern military forces in the newspapers/on tv daily,have modern children become too well educated in the realism of war to "make believe" in gi joe??
and are computer games where you "become" the hero stealing our imagination,instead of encouraging it?? do many children actually still play the way many of us used to?? or has our quick fix/next new trend culture deprieved kids of the chance to bond with and actually play with their toys?? -Not necessarily. Because such things in the news could be fertile ground for such toy play. Remember how we got into Joes (and other toys) to begin with? Cartoons, movies and TV shows. Basic play we had was re-enactment of the stuff we watched. -Yes. Why play with toys and go through the trouble of building your own world (or Joe-verse) in your mind and in the real world with empty boxes and cans and other beautiful junk when you can step into a pre-made world in glorious HD? With these games, not much is left to the imagination. (This is why I still prefer table-top pen-and-paper RPGs over console/computer/online RPGs. But I digress...) -Conditional yes. The quick fix/next new trend culture certainly has deprived kids the opportunity to bond with their toys. But living in a Third World country ("Developing Country" I think is the politically correct term, But I never was politically correct...), I can say that this particular culture is indulged in only by those who can afford to do so. For those who can't afford to get into the next new thing as soon as it is out, they have to make do with what they have even if it is horribly outdated. I'm also a believer of that old saying that you give a child all the toys in the world, he'll still end up playing with an empty box and loving it. I played with many a box in my day. Though, with the way technology is advancing and the virtual world becoming more real to many kids now, I'm afraid that when our generation passes, so will GI Joe as we know it. Maybe there will still be a virtual-world version of GI Joe in the form of video games, but it won't be the same.
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05-31-2010, 03:11 PM | #9 |
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I'm not sure if it's the desensitizing, but more of disillusioning. By immersing ourselves in a tangible fantasy, it brings us much more closer to the reality. Confused? With action figures, you had to come up with your own scenarios. To make these toys "real" you had to come up the concepts of their personalities and realities yourself. This, in turn makes the fantasy very real to the one imagining it.
With video games, movies, news broadcasts, etc. there's no true connection. These are somebody else's ideas and somebody else's images on the screen. You simply push the button and then action occurs. You can choose to accept them as real or (the much easier route), choose to filter the input. In that, you lose connectivity. You lose objectivity. But you also gain the option to ignore it. You can turn the game off or choose not to watch. This topic reminds me of when I was kid, playing with my Joes. My grandfather, who was somewhat of a pacifist, despised me playing with them. His fears, were somewhat prophetic as I ended up joining the military in hopes of becoming "A Real American Hero". Now, I suffer from PTSD from my combat experience. I can't sit through a realistic war film like Platoon or Apocalypse Now and as I hear "taps" from buglers this weekend, it seriously evokes much emotion. But it's through the Joes that I'm slowly coming to grips with it. In a sense, being able to connect again though my hobby with G.I. Joe is allowing me to be healthy again. It's a catalyst allowing me to "own" my feelings and create my reality rather than simply deny them. Through the Joes, I'm able to relate my pride of uniform. I'm able to face my fears. I'm able to connect with a part of me that needs to be there. You can't do that with a video game or watching some movie.
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05-31-2010, 03:58 PM | #10 |
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They aren't dead but they're close. Our generation was the first to have great toys with a back story that we all loved with cartoons and comics and TV adds to keep us hooked and wanting more. I still get excited when new toys come out.
Today I think most kids lack the imagination to come up with the scenarios independently like we all did. That and have you watched a cartoon aimed at kids? They have no GiJoe or He-Man. What's the longest toyline in the 2000s that wasent a rehash of a previously popular property? There's nothing like that today that's not a video game.And I think the variants and HTF figures turn kids away from toys(that and the creepy bastards that hang out in the toy sections around here buying all the good stuff) I guess it breaks down to the company selling a $10 action figure vs a $300 console. |
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