|
Community Links |
Social Groups |
Pictures & Albums |
Members List |
Search Forums |
Advanced Search |
Go to Page... |
|
Thread Tools |
02-22-2010, 06:03 AM | #1 |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Normandy SR2
Posts: 6,968
|
First off I just wanna say that I don't read the comics so I don't know what's going on with those. All I know are the cartoons & the toy line.
I was just looking through all the figures on Yojoe.com. Hasbro took 3-4 characters from each wave between '82-'87 & that's it. 1982, Out of 13 Joes it's always Scarlett & Snake Eyes. You hardly ever see any of the others. If you do it's only in the background. 1983 is pretty much only Wild Bill & Gung-Ho 1984 Is always Duke & Roadblock 1985 Is always Flint, Lady Jaye & Shipwreck. 1986 is pretty much only Hawk. Would it kill them to use some of the other characters for a change? Everybody knows the Snake-Eyes vs. Storm Shadow back story. Do we really need to see it rehashed in every single cartoon & movie? I'm really sick of those 2. I don't care about them anymore. For a change I'd like to see them focus on some other characters. Look at all the characters after '87 they never use. They never use any of the characters from '88. Blizzard, Budo, Charbroil, Hardball, Hit & Run, Lightfoot, Muskrat, Repeater, Shockwave & Spearhead and Max. I don't know anything about any of those characters. I never ever see them. Why does Hasbro do it this way? They're always talking about keeping everything "fresh". They're constantly changing the packaging to keep the line "fresh" & "new". Well Duke & Scarlett & Snake-Eyes & Hawk are old & stale! Enough already. I wanna know more about Spearhead & Max & Footloose & Leatherneck. I wanna see some of the post '87 characters used for a change. What's up with Ozone & Clean Sweep? And who the hell are Scoop & Recoil? If they insist on using chracters from '82-'87 then how bout giving some of the action to Sci-Fi (my favorite Joe), Low-Light & Blowtorch? There has to be somebody that works at Hasbro that would agree with me. Why aren't the fans complaining about this to Hasbro at the conventions? Isn't there some way to get them to start using all those other characters we never see? Can't they give Storm Shadow & Snake Eyes a break already? I really don't understand how you guys can stay interested when it's always the same old thing done over & over again. Now the new cartoon is coming out & we'll probably see the Storm Shadow vs. Snake Eyes origin story done all over again. As if anybody cares at this point. |
02-22-2010, 06:16 AM | #2 |
Majesty_77
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Coast "Machupicho"
Posts: 445
|
Hey I agree with you, there has to be a different storie like Lowlight and leatherneck,they also forgot sparks and connelle sharp,wetsuit and deepsix what about shipwreck and Quick kick,Alpine and Flint, (Lady jay). I'm gonna see where do I start, I should write comics and take over,I agree with you but these guys in hasbro just care about the money,they don't care about us die hard fans is what ever sells more.Yes its all about the money they could say all these wonderfull things,of course its B.S. they just wanna make that big profit.
|
02-22-2010, 07:17 AM | #3 |
Flint's Boss.
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 2,618
|
I agree with everything except the part about Duke. We need as much Duke as we can get. Maybe I'm bias.
__________________
Feedback Thread - http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-se...ight=1sghauser B/S/T Thread- http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...-t-thread.html |
02-22-2010, 08:07 AM | #4 |
Crimson Nerd
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12,578
|
The thing is that NOT everyone knows the Snake Eyes vs. Storm Shadow Backstory. When making a new piece of media Hasbro and the producers have to make it accessible to both new and old fans, in the hopes that they can attract a newer, younger audience and keep the property going on more than just a relatively small number of fanboy "children of the 80's." So they have to write it from a perspective that the people watching it don't know all these characters inside and out, and thus certain things get rehashed. Further, the Snake-Eyes vs. Storm Shadow rivalry is pretty much integral to the 80's Joe mythos. Like it or not, it's part of what G.I. Joe is.
Hasbro does not see G.I. Joe as an "adult" property and thus their focus is never fully going to be on the adult collector. It's far easier to bank on a group of marketable characters than to try to "build up" obscure ones basically from scratch. The only people that know about or care about the more obscure characters are the older fans, and our money is already being spent on the property. That makes it in Hasbro's best interest to concentrate more on garnering new fans than simply holding onto old ones. Expecting Hasbro to not act like a business just for our benefit is pretty silly. If a cartoon series runs for a few seasons then we'll likely start to get episodes focusing on or guest-starring some of the second and third tier characters. Until then it's pretty much the comics that are the only place you'll see the lesser-known characters getting any chance to shine. Last edited by Jmacq1; 02-22-2010 at 08:09 AM.. |
02-22-2010, 08:42 AM | #5 |
Banned
Join Date: May 2007
Location: blasdell, ny near buffalo
Posts: 8,433
|
man i have been saying that for awhile now. we have enough Se,duke and so on. we need some new blood in the line now. they can make up new characters like in poc we are getting a new drednok, 2 new joes. so they can do it when they want to.
|
02-22-2010, 09:24 AM | #6 |
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 914
|
I couldn't agree more. I don't understand why the toy line was very successfull with new characters all throughout the 80's but now it's Duke SE stormy and a few others. Isn't the constant rehash what Valor vs Venom and Spytroops down the drain. I happy to be getting the POC stuff and all. I would like to see some more diversity. Isn't that what made this line so popular in the first run
|
CobrasUsedCars |
View Public Profile |
Find More Posts by CobrasUsedCars |
02-22-2010, 10:11 AM | #7 |
Mercenary for hire
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London, ON
Posts: 651
|
Quote:
The thing is that NOT everyone knows the Snake Eyes vs. Storm Shadow Backstory. When making a new piece of media Hasbro and the producers have to make it accessible to both new and old fans, in the hopes that they can attract a newer, younger audience and keep the property going on more than just a relatively small number of fanboy "children of the 80's." So they have to write it from a perspective that the people watching it don't know all these characters inside and out, and thus certain things get rehashed. Further, the Snake-Eyes vs. Storm Shadow rivalry is pretty much integral to the 80's Joe mythos. Like it or not, it's part of what G.I. Joe is.
Hasbro does not see G.I. Joe as an "adult" property and thus their focus is never fully going to be on the adult collector. It's far easier to bank on a group of marketable characters than to try to "build up" obscure ones basically from scratch. The only people that know about or care about the more obscure characters are the older fans, and our money is already being spent on the property. That makes it in Hasbro's best interest to concentrate more on garnering new fans than simply holding onto old ones. Expecting Hasbro to not act like a business just for our benefit is pretty silly. If a cartoon series runs for a few seasons then we'll likely start to get episodes focusing on or guest-starring some of the second and third tier characters. Until then it's pretty much the comics that are the only place you'll see the lesser-known characters getting any chance to shine. I would love to see a focus on some of the older established characters that never get any love...Low Light, Sci-Fi, etc. The thing with the cast of hundreds is that they are all essentially supporting cast, and may get an individual spotlight episode, but they are not essential to the Mythos. Hasbro will push the more well known characters, re-introducing them to each generation in a slightly different style. If that media becomes successful, they will expand the spotlight to other characters. Duke, SE, Scarlett and Hawk have been the stars of Joe for more than 20 years, Hasbro has absolutely no reason to change that.
__________________
|
02-22-2010, 10:23 AM | #8 |
#voteblackjack
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northwood, NH
Posts: 35,747
|
The cartoon featured lots of different Joes.
Wet-Suit got a feature episode, Dusty had a major two-parter, Low-Light got a feature, Iceberg, Shipwreck, Spirit was a major-player. It's really the recent years that have an overabundance of main characters. Jmacq1 hit it on the head. Hasbro has identified some CORE characters from both Joe and Cobra. These ones will always get remade in each line, and then infilled with supporting characters around them. As a collector of multiple Joe lines, it is frustrating to get the thousandth Snake-Eyes, but there is always someone to who it's the first SE they get and SE is the character they most identify with. I'm tired of the SE/SS story and think it's detracted and taking time away from other things in Resolute and RoC. But I understand perfectly why it's there.
__________________
Join the New England G.I. Joe Collector's Group: Battleforce New England Join the March of Cobra. Read the epic adventure on Kindle Worlds and visit the page to learn more. https://www.facebook.com/marchofcobra/ |
02-22-2010, 10:32 AM | #9 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 247
|
Quote:
Quote:
1983 is pretty much only Wild Bill & Gung-Ho
Quote:
1984 Is always Duke & Roadblock
Quote:
1985 Is always Flint, Lady Jaye & Shipwreck.
Quote:
1986 is pretty much only Hawk.
I absolutely agree that the lower-tier Joes could still benefit from face time... but where exactly are you talking about? Cartoons? We don't have one, and won't till next year. The toyline? The 25th Anniversary gave us plenty of lesser-knowns and also-rans. Comics? The IDW series is littered with the small-fry characters and cameos from the obscure pool. The main characters are just that. The MAIN characters. They define G.I.Joe, and every time there's a new iteration, these are the characters you'll see every time. But to say Hasbro's ignoring or denying the rest of the cast and the history of the team... it's just not happening. When someone at Hasbro cooks up an awesome urban trooper sculpt, we'll see a new Shockwave/blast figure. A new sniper figure might easily be called Low-Light or Barrel Roll. And really, that's about as much as you can expect. |
02-22-2010, 10:32 AM | #10 |
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: I'm a MASS-HOLE!
Posts: 4,830
|
I think Steelgrave's anger has been misdirected at Hasbro.
Hasbro doesn't make the comics, movie, cartoons or whatever, the creators of said media do. It isn't Hasbro's fault Marvel and Sunbow decided to focus on the characters he mentioned. That said, I think as an elite unit comprised of the best of the best, the fewer the better makes more sense. A core team of heroes with mission specific Joes sprinkled in is the best way to go. |
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Custom hasbro sketchbook and obscure comic characters contest!!!!!! Prizes | Tankster | G.I. Joe Customs Contests | 13 | 11-27-2009 11:22 AM |
Custom Hasbro Sketchbook Contest & Obscure Comic Characters voting thread | Tankster | G.I. Joe Customs Finished Projects | 54 | 11-13-2009 10:50 PM |
Custom Hasbro Sketchbook Contest & Obscure Comic Characters | Tankster | G.I. Joe Customs Contests | 139 | 11-07-2009 11:12 AM |
Why can't Hasbro give old characters new looks? | Troynos | G.I. Joe General Discussion | 176 | 07-24-2009 09:37 AM |
166 Figures (76 of which are unique characters) Thank You HASBRO!!! | Copper21 | G.I. Joe Toys Modern & General Discussion | 2 | 09-22-2008 02:59 AM |
|
|
Recent Off Topic Threads |
What song are you listening to? |
1:18 Airwolf kickstarter |
4" Fortnite from Jazwares |
JazWares 18th Halo |
Marvel Universe 3.75" figures |