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02-11-2010, 03:29 PM | #41 |
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I disagree with putting Serpentor on top of Cobra Commander. Serpentor met with a pathetic end the last time they met. Survival of the Wittest lol.
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02-11-2010, 03:46 PM | #42 |
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Sadly I've given this A LOT of thought.
Depending on any given power swing and I actually have a more detailed chart somewhere but simply put... -Command Level CC, Destro, Serpentor, Baroness -Specialist Level Any Cobra character that has a codename not just a trooper Major Bludd, Copperhead, The Dreadnoks, etc. -Troop Leader Any Cobra who leads a Viper group such as Scapel, or Snow Serpent Commander etc. -Troopers This includes Vipers of any kind and Blueshirts. |
02-11-2010, 04:37 PM | #43 |
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My Two Cents (as my Joeverse is set up)
Serpentor: Emperor of all that is Cobra (Financial, Military, Arms Production, Etc) Mostly a figure head position like the Queen of England. Cobra Commander: Commander in Chief of Cobra. Destro: High level consultant to Cobra and President/CEO of M.A.R.S Holds no real rank in Cobra but is held in high esteem. Commands Iron Grenadiers who are not Cobras, but are Destro’s own Army. All IG command fall under this separate Army (Undertow, Voltar, etc) Major Blood: High Ranking Officer (i.e. Major) in the Cobra Armor/Infantry division. (until his unfortunate demise in Resolute) Firefly: Freelance Assassin. He works for anyone who is willing to pay his price. No rank in Cobra military. Storm Shadow: Like a Cobra Special Forces soldier. Holds a rank but the rank is immaterial because of his abilities. He can tell superiors to do things in combat situations. He holds no accountability except for to the Commander in Chief. Baroness: Intelligence General. Reports to Commander in Chief. Heads up the intelligence agency of Cobra. Dr. MindBender: General in charge of Cobra’s Science and research. Heads up all subordinates in the R and D sector of Cobra. Indirect command of BATS but not on the battlefield. Zartan and the Noks: Hired mercenaries. They are not part of the official Cobra structure. Zartan reports to Commander in Chief as he is the one who pays for their services but Zartan is the only one who commands the Noks in battle. In my world, Copperhead is a Nok. The relationship can be severed by either party at any time. Vipers are a specialized unit of the Cobra Army. They are a ground force which is pure infantry. Blue Shirts have their own rank and file but are largely support staff and other administrative functions. Sure… in time of war, they can pick up a gun but they never really receive the best of training. (Hence their shooting abilities) People like Croc Master, Night Adder, and other specialists are not part of the normal rank in file. Croc Master does not have a direct supervisor in that there is no “security detail” or “Cobra Police” commander. As such, they are hired contracts. There is a Cobra Air Force, although the hierarchy is not a solid one. Wild Weasel is a high up Officer, and there are the many Vipers who are different subsequent ranks. The Cobra Navy exists as well, but the hierarchy is also cloudy. Eels are high ranking Officers, cobra divers are the grunts. The twins are heads of the financial sector of Cobra. As such, they control the Crimson Guard. The Guard can be mobilized if needed, but for the most part, they are like the Army reserve of yester-year.
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02-11-2010, 04:44 PM | #44 |
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Here's how I see it: I don't have Destro, Zartan or SS in the chain of command.
Destro is Cobra's weapons supplier and a partner in crime, until he formally breaks all ties with Cobra and forms the Iron Grenadiers. Zartan is an independent contractor, the Dreadnoks are his private army. Storm Shadow is official Cobra roster, but is not in the chain of command, nor does he take orders from anyone except Cobra commander. The chain of command is CC as commander in chief, Baroness is second in command of all military operations. Baroness is die hard Cobra despite her feelings for Destro. If she died in battle, her last words would be "hail Cobra!". Major blood is tactical advisor. Tomax and Xamot are in charge of Cobra's finacial and legal empire, and have command of the Crimson gaurd. Mindbender and Venom are Cobra's cheif scientists and as such have a special seat at the table, but do not take part in military decisions. Firefly, scrap iron, and the rest are specialized operatives who are often given feild command of their small units,but are not official chain of command. Serpentor is a supersoldier who also acts as Cobra's symbol of dominance, like a Cobra version of Captain America. |
02-13-2010, 07:30 AM | #45 |
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This is my list (more or less):
Cobra Ranks: 1. Cobra Commander (high commander) 2. The Baroness, Tomax & Xamot, Serpentor, & Crimson Guard Commanders (executive officers) 3. Cobra Officers (gold V-pin), Rip It, Track-Viper Commanders (blue suits), Major Bludd, Storm Shadow, Firefly, Dr. Mindbender, Scrap-Iron, Crimson Guard Officers, & CG Immortals (senior field officers) 4. Cobra Officers (silver V-pin), Track-Vipers (red suit HISS Drivers), Tele-Vipers, Techno-Vipers, AVAC & Crimson Guards, Copperhead & Wild Weasel (junior field officers) 5. Cobra Officers (black V-pin), Motor-Vipers, Croc Master, Rebecca Bristow & Lt. Clay Moore (NCOs) 6. [weapon/environment specialist]-Vipers, Eels (specialist troops) 7. Vipers (core troops) 8. Cobra Troopers (entry-level troops) & Desert Scorpions (punishment detail) 0. BATs & Toxo-Viper (no rank) Cobra Commanders: Cobra Commander – Supreme Leader of Cobra The Baroness – Head of Cobra Intelligence Tomax & Xamot – Heads of Crimson Guard Corp (Crimson Guard Commanders) Crimson Guard Commanders – Crimson Guard Section Leaders Crimson Guard Immortals – Armored CG Section Leaders Crimson Guard Officers – Crimson Guard Cell Leaders Serpentor – Commander of Cobra Ground Forces Major Bludd – (Mercenary) Legion Commander Cobra Officers (gold V-pin) – Legion Commanders Rip It (Track-Viper) – Armored Battalion Commander Track-Viper Commanders (blue suits) – Armored Section Leaders Storm Shadow – Night Force Commander Dr. Mindbender – Head of Cobra Science Department Scrap-Iron – Head of Cobra Engineering Department (Techno-Viper Officer) Cobra Officers (silver V-pin) – Infantry Section Leaders Track-Vipers (red suit) – Tank Commanders Copperhead – Marine Commander Wild Weasel – Ground-support Commander Rebecca Bristow – Night Stalkers Commander Lt. Clay Moore – Shock Viper Commander Cobra Officers (black V-pin) – Squad Leaders Croc Master – Infantry Trainer Iron Grenadier Ranks: 1. Destro (high commander) 2. Voltar (executive officer) 3. Metal Head & Annihilators (senior field officers) 4. TARGETs, Wild Boars, Nullifiers, Undertows & Heavy Iron Grenadiers Officers (junior field officers) 5. Heavy Iron Grenadiers, Ferrets & Iron Grenadier Officers (NCOs) 6. Iron Grenadier Troops (core troops) The Dreadnok Ranks (so to speak) 1. Zartan (gang leader) 2. Zarana & Zandar (gang lieutenants) 3. The other Dreadnok members (members) |
02-13-2010, 09:28 AM | #46 |
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Serpentor-Figurehead in my mind
Cobra Commander real leader Destro 2nd in Command/Arms Dealer Baroness Cobra Intelligence Major Bludd Field Commander Firefly and Scrap Iron CC Platoon Leaders Crimson Twins Tomax/Xamot CEO's of Cobra's Finance Dept and head of the CG's Understudies to Destro Zartan Swamp Recon Leader Zandar/Zarana-2nd in Command Copperhead Zartan's Recon Sergeant Dreadnoks Swamp Recon Squad Leaders-w/ groups of Troops Storm Shadow Bodyguard,aide to Baroness/C.C., and leader of Red Ninjas Mindbender Mad Scientist and Creator of the BATS Cobra Troopers/Officers regular blue, black, and red sigil-silver officer only-Basic Army Cobra Troopers/Officers Comic Book Style-Air Force Wild Weasel Colonel of the Cobra Air Corps Crimson Guards/CG Officer-basic SS type troopers-Secret Police Cobra Troopers UBP Colors, EELS,Snow Serpent,Lamprey-Navy Vipers/Night Watch-Marines HISS Drivers,Stinger Drivers,Strato Vipers, AVACs, Serpent Armor and any other Drivers-Basic Military Major Rank to the troops. BATS-Weapons of Mass Destruction Any others I left out from 82-87 let me know |
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02-13-2010, 09:37 AM | #47 |
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Here's my take:
Now the top of the Hierachy is much like this: (keep in mind no one has ever died in my Cobraverse) Cobra Commander = King Serpentor = Emperor More or less equivalents although they try not to occupy the same space. CC hangs at Cobra Island mostly, Serpentor tries to do most of the fighting since he is a better stategist. CC is a better money maker. Destro = Marshall (Iron Grenadiers aren't part of Cobra but they often fight side by side.) (0-10) Generals Overlord Tomax Xamot Gen. Mayhem (0-9) Lt. Generals Baroness Darklon Dr. Minbender Black Dragon Cesspool (0-8) Maj Generals Maj Gen Bludd Voltar Storm Shadow Dr. Venom Zartan Headman (0-7) Brig Generals Firefly Wild Weasel Alexander Destro Hannibal Interrogator CLAWS Commander (0-6)Colonels Mortal Scrap-Iron Night Creeper Leader Gristle Red Laser Venomus Maximus Big Boa Overkill Scalpel (0-5) Lt. Colonels Guillotine Snow Serpent Commander SkullBuster Cooperhead Zarana Lt Col Claymore Slice Rip It Crystal ball Escorpio Voador Neo-Viper Commander (0-4) Majors Zandar Dr. Knox Hotwire Skycreeper BLackout Croc Master Raptor Metal-Head Neuro toxin Razorclaw GhostBear Coil Crusher Hopefully that's everyone. Major(Gen) Bludd and Firefly and Zartan are all paid and treated like Generals, should they lead troops. Bludd does so more often. I treat him as the Commander of the Infantry Forces anyway. Scrap-Iron and Copperhead are Colonels. SCrap-Iron stopped working for Destro 20 years ago. Firefly and Maj Bludd have been employed for so long they don't really work for anyone else. Although Firefly rarely leads troop sizes large enough to be a General, he carries that rank and all its pay. It's more like a government equivalent. There are CIA agents that plan with generals and Colonels and their GS grades make them equivalents. Like most Terrorist organizations, Cobra doesn't have government ranks, but they hand out military titles like free taffy. Plus My Cobra Army is also a Mercenary Army so it's useful to rank as high or higher as the local commanders you are assisting. I mostly disregard the ranks we were given. I have one (0-6) Viper (Gold Sonic Viper) Cobra Drivers are (0-2)Lts The various other Cobra Officers and Neo-vipers and Hiss drivers are Captains or Majors or Lt. depending on which ever I have the most or least of. The more I have the lower the rank. All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7. There are no Warrant Officers but a lot of Sgt Majors. All Dreadnoks are paid as Sgt Majors except Buzzer who is a Capt. Pilots are a little different. But since they don't command troops they are not really in charge of anyone but themselves. Wild Weasel is the exception. I assume some of the more specialty Vipers have higher ranks to start with in general, but they hold ranks just like any other unit. Therefore a Sgt doesn't outrank a Captain ever. I see it like this. Bottom rung is a Blueshirt. Really a private. He maybe gets some Cobra basic training/indoctrination and is handed the standard issue Dragunov Rifle cause cobra got those at a bargain price during the cold war. Once he gets a promotion he can continue to move up the ranks in the Blue Shirts regular units or he can get specialized. I would say a majority of the Cobra operatives are blueshirts. Supply guys, maintenance, security, transport, ditch-diggers, basic logistics. Should they want more money and danger they move to the Viper Corps. These are Cobra Assault troopers. Either a Ranger or Marine Equivalent. Once they complete the training they are Corporals (E-4) You first need to complete Viper training to move to any of the other Viper Specialties. For this fact alone All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7 equivalents to begin with due to the amount of time they spend training To become an officer in any unit of Cobra you just have to be the most ruthless guy around. It's more of a title than anything else. You get paid more but you have to answer to someone above and battlefield executions of officers are common. So any Cobra Officer is not afraid of anyone. The rank of (0-4) Major is about as high as a faceless Cobra gets. Many of the named Cobras are at least (0-5) Commander. So Rip-It, Skull-buster, Claymore, Snow-Serpent Commander are all (0-5), and they are as ruthless and tough as Cobra has. Now Crimson Guards that's an interesting one. For me since there are a million versions now. (This is my verse of course) All are officers, they are commissioned as Capt. right off the bat. You figure all are college educated and Lawyers or accountants. So much like our Armed forces they get commissions. They are the spies of Cobra as well. But they have other roles as well. Like the SS they are the best trained troops in Cobra. They are the Political Officers of Cobra, sort of like how Soviet era Russia was set up. So he may not be the field commander but he could just as easily put a bullet in the field commanders head and take over.. They are trained as military officers and are usually brighter than what gets put in the field. Shadow Guards are the Gestapo wing of the Crimson Guards. Crimson Guard Immortals are the Highest ranking CGs and they do serve as battle field commanders occasionally. They all hold the rank of Colonel. They are only tapped for duty to serve with Cobra Commander. Cobra Commander does not travel lightly armed. But he keeps his detachment with him at all times. If one of these guys tells you to do something you know it came straight from the Commander. Crimson guard commanders are 0-5 equivalents and they serve as Battlefield commanders and are the next step down. Most CGs are Capts or Maj and there is one attached to every unit. Like a Chaplain Last edited by Loose Cannon; 02-13-2010 at 09:42 AM.. |
02-13-2010, 01:34 PM | #48 |
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It hurts my brain just to think about this.
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02-22-2010, 11:05 PM | #49 |
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Well, Zartan and the Dreadoks are Mercanaries so they woudl be hired by cobra on a case by case basis... So they woudl hold no rank
Destro is a weaopon supplier, so CC is more a cusomter to him. But it seems as though Destro is unofficailly the number 2 man. Crimson Twins are the head of Extensive Enterpirses. Their job is to go after people through business means and contracts... (See their file cards)... whereas Destro will just plain kill you Unofficially, you could consider the ranks CC Destro Baroness Twins Dr. Mndbender I would not put Zartan or SS in here. Also, consider Major bludd... Anohter questions would be do you see Sepentor the True leader of cobra or CC? If you buy the Cobra La Theory, then you would have to go GOlobulous, Serpentor CObra Commander --- then removed from the ranks Quote:
I know this may vary depending on which continuity you follow, but here's how I see it from the top down:
Cobra Commander (with Storm Shadow as his bodyguard) -Destro & The Baroness -Crimson Twins -Zartan ( & Dreadnoks), Firefly, Wild Weasel, Copperhead, Croc Master, Dr. Mindbender all laterally of the same rank per se -Crimson Guard -Eels, Snow Serpents, Air Vipers/Special pilots (figuring this is the cream of the crop) -Vipers -Troops (basically any standard troops of any specialty) Just curious if I missed anybody important or if you agreed with my rankings. |
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