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12-21-2009, 08:14 PM | #51 |
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As I said before, Hasbro isn't paying for tooling one piece of plastic, they're paying for thirty plus the cost of assmbling and painting them per figure. Also, let's not forget weapons, vests, and other accesories. That's at least 5 extra bits per figure (maybe 15 for a Pit Commando). There's a reason that Joes cost more than twice as much as Corps. They take twice as many pieces to build, have twice the accesories, and have twice the paint apps. Hasbro comes out with a new wave every two months vs every ten years with Lanerd, but God forbid anybody stop to consider any of that. |
12-21-2009, 08:30 PM | #52 |
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Maybe this is off-topic. But every time is see the word Corporation, I see the word New World Order.
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12-21-2009, 08:34 PM | #53 |
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12-21-2009, 08:54 PM | #54 |
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Dude, most sellers on ebay are honest guys trying to make a buck. I'm tired of everyone pissing and moaning about how all eBay sellers are thieves and scalpers.
People need to step back and realize that just because some guy is selling a Joe at market value, that doesn't make him a scumbucket. You're not entitled to his goods at your price. If you buy something, mark up the price, and sell it, you're a scalper. Look up the definition. If you take either of those as an insult, that's your problem.
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12-21-2009, 08:58 PM | #55 |
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I have to buy expensive sneakers because I have flat feet. Without them I can't go to work to make money and life starts a giant downward spiral. So I don't want to see that movie.
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12-21-2009, 09:00 PM | #56 |
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Well, I think we can all agree it simply doesn't cost anywhere near enough to produce a Joe figure to warrant a retail price of $9-$10 a fig. And, I would argue that Hasbro screwed the pooch trying to charge that, and have since, working with their retailers, corrected (if only temporarily) the problem.
As for me, I have not paid full (suggested retail) or higher for any RoC figs, and will not, even for the good ones. I have passed up some of the best figs at retail only to collect them later at a much more reasonable $5-$6 (a relative steal really, considering we were paying about $3 for similar figs 25 years ago). Many others have done the same. However, there is always some uberfanboy that absolutely MUST have that fig before some other Joe collector he wants to outshwartz on the internet that will pay that much and more. Those people are beyond help, and are more part of the problem than of the solution. The rest of us were able to contain our excitement and wait for a better price to come, and it did. A natural correction happened since the release of RoC, that was the price per fig cost dropping by nearly half (after they had raised the price to double since the beginning of he 25th line). Additional significant corrections will continue as the holidays pass and inventory remains on shelves. Hasbro will continue to profit and happy collectors will pad their collections with clearanced merchandise. All will be well in the Joeverse and we will start all over again... or something like that. |
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12-21-2009, 09:08 PM | #57 |
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Just because it cost that much to make that initial product, don't forget you still have to pay all those salaries and Habro, pay the bills to keep the place running, pay for marketing etc. There are a LOT of other costs that go into the pricing outside of building the product into an action figure
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12-21-2009, 09:13 PM | #58 |
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As for me, I have not paid full (suggested retail) or higher for any RoC figs, and will not, even the good ones. I have passed up some of the best figs at retail only to collect them later at a much more reasonable $5-$6 (a relative steal really, considering we were paying about $3 for similar figs 25 years ago). Many others have done the same.
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However, there is always some uberfanboy that absolutely MUST have that fig before some other Joe collector he wants to outshwartz on the internet that will pay that much and more. Those people are beyond help, and are more part of the problem than of the solution. The rest of us were able to contain our excitement and wait for a better price to come, and it did.
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A natural correction happened since the release of RoC, that was the price per fig cost dropping by nearly half (after they had raised the price to double since the beginning of he 25th line). Additional significant corrections will continue as the holidays pass and inventory remains on shelves. Hasbro will continue to profit and happy collectors will pad their collections with clearanced merchandise. All will be well in the Joeverse and we will start all over again... or something like that.
You on the other hand, didn't produce a single iota of evidence to back up anything you've said. No offense, but it sounds to me like you're just randomly (and if you'll excuse the term) "talking out of your ass" rather than speaking from any actual knowledge or experience on this matter. |
12-21-2009, 09:32 PM | #59 |
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The RoC price reduction, being more longer term, I don't tend to think of as a sale, even though technically it is, just because it's meant to clear out the inventory and not produce a quick turn around to put more backroom stock out like a normal sale is.
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Or maybe we spend according to a monthly budget. I don't care what a fig cost per unit, if the price per fig goes up, it just means I can't buy as many that month. I also believe in supporting what I personally think is a good line. You can insulkt me with your childish name-calling all you want for that and say I'm beyond help, but the fact is your practice of waiting until clearance prices is what's actually hurting the line. Anyone that knows anything about business will tell you the same.
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You on the other hand, didn't produce a single iota of evidence to back up anything you've said. No offense, but it sounds to me like you're just randomly (and if you'll excuse the term) "talking out of your ass" rather than speaking from any actual knowledge or experience on this matter.
Oh, and maybe next time if you don't assume someone is referring to you and perhaps just has a different viewpoint, you most likely won't feel the need to get so defensive. Last edited by thunderdan19; 12-21-2009 at 09:46 PM.. |
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