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11-26-2009, 03:10 PM | #191 |
So much drama 'n the LBCs
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Really? You also need to read the comics to know why the airstrike came early, or why the hell Rex got sent into a building alone, atleast according to you in another movie thread. So yeah, I guess you don't need the comics to explain the story at all. I guess I'm some sort of freak because I expect things to make a little bit of sense. Both those two things are HUGE glaring wtf moments, or atleast they were to me. Like why years go by and Duke never finds out who screwed the pooch on that and why no one hung for it? I just remember every hole I found in RoC you said, oh that was in the comic. That is halfassed storytelling. Whatever, I'm not going to turn this into another RoC thread, there are plenty of other lame ass things that showed up in all eras of Joe.
-13 Even suspending disbelief, there is a set of "fiction logic" and "in-story physics" that stories usually establish in my head. I accept a lot of plot holes in decent films because they are a suspension of disbelief. But sometimes the movie itself sets a standard of absurdity that you just kick back and say "fuck it, this is just for fun" like the movie Crank. That movie was so bad and absurd that I loved it, the entire thing. It was just nonstop nonsense, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. GI Joe, to me, couldn't decide if it wanted to play the ridiculous card, or the serious card, and set an imbalanced tone throughout the film for me. And like you, I questioned the logic behind the Ripcord name (and Ripcord being a character I could give two half shits about in the first place, so there's no nostalgia for the character there). It didn't ruin the film for me, but when I started watching the film, I was like, wait, why would a guy named "Ripcord" be in a ground unit? They did say the line about flying, etc, which sort of helped, but then I thought, "but that'd be like a driver being named 'crash dummy'. Is it a joke, because he's an assclown?" |
11-26-2009, 10:45 PM | #192 |
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And like I said, probably more then 1/2 the people that watched it wouldn't think twice why Rex went in alone.
People "in the know" tend to look at things differently. Because you know how things are really done, when it's not it just stands out more to you. As an architect, I get that way all the time with different stuff. Hell, everytime I look at a picture of the PIT it just screams to me "that's not right, not the right size, not the right layout, not the right facilities, there's no way a unit of that size could be housed in that size of building". But then a remember it's a movie that has to get from Point A to Point Z and has a limited amount of time and words to spend doing that and has to weigh being technically correct and knowing that a large percentage of the viewing audience won't notice the difference or moving the story along in a way that makes sense to most people. Do you need to know why the air strike came early to understand the RoC story? No. Do you need to know why Rex went into the building alone? No. It's not necessarily half-assed writing, it's just moving the story along. You can go into any movie, any book, anything and find sequances that someone "in the know" would look at and go "that's not how it's done". But for the most part the movies aren't made expecting everyone to be "in the know" so some things are glossed over, left out, or done to move the story along. If it's half-assed writing, then there's a ton of it out there.
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11-26-2009, 11:20 PM | #193 |
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idk if RoC would count since it isn't a popular thing of Joe canon, at least in here. Personally I'm fine with it; it's not like it destroyed anything. It's new, it's modern, it's somewhat refreshing overall.
But the thing I don't really like is how Cobra La turned out. I didn't follow GI Joe much back then, actually, and this was one reason why, lol. That was just too corny. And the hierarchy I thought shows that everyone is led by Cobra Commander. Then it turns out, he answers to Serpentor. THEN IT TURNS OUT, Serpentor answers to Golobulus? I stopped paying attention then and there because well, I was into TMNT more. Haha. And because I wouldn't want to know if Golobulus has a superior and so on, lol. And the GI Joe animated movie. It's not that I hate it, or strongly dislike...I just like that less than RoC. I may get a lot of hate here but a reason I'm fine with RoC was because at least it didn't have CC as this fat snake uttering the same damn line over and over again, lol. Few things I liked about the animated movie: the theme song and Beachhead. Also, Dreadnoks. They just looked out of place to me the most. Even when I was a kid I found them weird. Even Spirit or Raptor I tolerated. The Dreadnoks were just...odd.
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11-26-2009, 11:30 PM | #194 |
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I want to add the Crimson Guard. I hate the figures. Can't stand 'em.
I like the idea of the Siegies, as used in the comics, complete sleeper agents. That has great potential. Just never used right.
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11-27-2009, 01:47 AM | #195 |
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11-27-2009, 03:20 AM | #196 |
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And like I said, probably more then 1/2 the people that watched it wouldn't think twice why Rex went in alone.
People "in the know" tend to look at things differently. Because you know how things are really done, when it's not it just stands out more to you. ... But then a remember it's a movie that has to get from Point A to Point Z and has a limited amount of time and words to spend doing that and has to weigh being technically correct and knowing that a large percentage of the viewing audience won't notice the difference or moving the story along in a way that makes sense to most people. Do you need to know why the air strike came early to understand the RoC story? No. Do you need to know why Rex went into the building alone? No. It's not necessarily half-assed writing, it's just moving the story along. You can go into any movie, any book, anything and find sequances that someone "in the know" would look at and go "that's not how it's done". But for the most part the movies aren't made expecting everyone to be "in the know" so some things are glossed over, left out, or done to move the story along. If it's half-assed writing, then there's a ton of it out there. ... you finally swayed me into overriding my basic expectations of logic and storytelling and believing the film wasn't a terribly written cavernous hole of a plot! *** game show "win" soundtrack plays *** It only took 3,420 posts in favor of the film, but you've done it! |
11-27-2009, 04:03 AM | #197 |
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Marlane Wayanes to answer this qustion.
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11-27-2009, 04:08 AM | #198 |
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I want to hear Snake Eyes talk. Just once I would like him to tell Duke "Hey back the F up off my honey there jarhead".
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11-28-2009, 01:17 AM | #199 |
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I am not a fan of the new Pit toy.
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