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10-12-2009, 02:17 PM | #11 |
ninja merc
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Firefly!!!!!
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10-12-2009, 02:20 PM | #12 |
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I tend to think of Firefly as cool because of his potential. The possibilities promised by his design and file card are awesome. But the the actual character in both the cartoons and comics never lived up to it. First Firefly was seen getting his ass handed to him on several occasions in the early days, then he comes back as Master of the Red Ninja clan... Wha?
Zartan is just the opposite. The figure looks a bit cartoonish, his file card and character are outrageous in the real world, but he works great in both the comics and the cartoons. In the comics he was tough, responsible for a great ninja revenge story arc, ended the Cobra Civil war single handidly, and then became a decent man before succumbing to Cobra Commander's mind control. In the cartoons he was even cooler. Shown as a true mercenary who worked both sides for his own ends time and again.
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10-12-2009, 02:26 PM | #13 |
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Classic comics:
Zartan wound up reforming in the comics, givining him a good character arc but ruining his villainy. Firefly wound up being another thread to Snake-Eyes' past and decided to become a Cobra Commander wannabe. Winner: Zartan, because the later material with Firefly seemed forced and unnecessary Sunbow: Zartan starts out badass, but soon we discover he's allergic to direct sunlight...sometimes, and is as prone to cowardness as most of the Cobras (Countdown for Zartan). Firefly, less is more. He was underused and comes off better for it in some ways. Never betrayed Cobra Commander, in fact sided with him as part of the Coil. Disappears after his Stun crashes in the movie, never to be seen again in Sunbow or Dic. Captured? Escaped? Dead? Winner: Firefly...marginally Devil's Due: Zartan has a daughter, and health problems. Sucks getting old. Firefly, sides with Serpentor...and some other stuff I don't remember Winner: Firefly Sigma Six: Zartan like Sunbow but less memorable, no sunlight weakeness Firefly, Gen-x/Gen-Y extreme dude who is really a Cobra spy. Shaves his head bald after he is discovered. Winner: Zartan Toys: Zartan, at least as many bad figures (hockey jersey, GvsC, Ninja Force, Tiger Force) as good ones. He was also ARAH's first super villain, with color change and the rubber mask disguises. Sure Destro wore a metal mask, but it's not like it gave him powers. Firefly, some neon green releases aside, mostly decent to good releases, or at least his bad ones aren't as bad as Zartan's. His specialty is more believable than Zartan's. And he never had his siblings join Cobra. Winner: Firefly Overall: Firefly. Zartan appeared in the movie, but only competing appearances count. |
10-12-2009, 02:26 PM | #14 |
Oldschool fan
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tough call
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10-12-2009, 02:34 PM | #15 |
Cobra Viper
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I would have to say Zartan. Being able to take someones identity would be a big advantage.
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10-12-2009, 02:40 PM | #16 |
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Wow, that is a difficult debate. I am going to say both and it depends on the mission objective, to truly decide which one I'd choose.
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10-12-2009, 03:10 PM | #17 |
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Firefly!
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10-12-2009, 03:16 PM | #18 |
Deceptiron
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Zartan by a mile. Firefly blows shit up. Man, so does Scrap-Iron. I like Firefly, don't get me wrong. But against Zartan? No contest.
Who can do what Zartan does and look as cool doing it? Probably one of the best cartoon voices as well. |
10-12-2009, 03:16 PM | #19 |
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Firefly....by cosmic leaps and bounds.
I've never really seen the appeal of schizophrenic, swamp dwelling trailer trash...with or without holographic chameleon tech.
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10-12-2009, 03:22 PM | #20 |
Random Viper
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Tough call, but I have to say Zartan.
His sister is hot! Klinton, I can't stop staring at your sig. It's mesmerizing.
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