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08-27-2009, 03:52 AM | #1 |
Cobra Viper
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Just a random thought I had earlier...
We grew up in a world where Cobra, the Decepticons, the Empire, and other "Bad guy" factions had much cooler looking uniforms and equipment, and as a result many of us - while being good guys- are fans of the bad guys... Is there a paradigm shift with Rise of Cobra, where they have been intentionally made ugly so we'll be fans of the good guys? Any thoughts? |
08-27-2009, 03:52 AM | #2 |
We Sleep, They Live
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I feel like it's just poor design.
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08-27-2009, 03:54 AM | #3 |
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Don't forget to add lack of imagination...
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08-27-2009, 04:02 AM | #4 |
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if you're so easily swayed....
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08-27-2009, 04:05 AM | #5 |
Vintage Man
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Poor design, lack of imagination, and like a half-dozen figures to flip-flop and repaint parts from in order to make new combinations with any noticeable difference. Thus, half-dozen ugly figures equals an exponential number of ugly figures.
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08-27-2009, 04:13 AM | #6 |
Cobra Viper
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hmmm I hope this doesn't turn into a ROC- bashing thread. I think there's a lot of good there- just the Cobra troopers are ugly.
Fortunately Baroness stayed HOT. |
08-27-2009, 04:14 AM | #7 |
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maybe there is something to that idea. cobra is depicted as very dark, grisly, and emotionless ugly people. besides baroness of course. they really took the glam out of cobra. i dont know if it was to make kids not like the bad guys though
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08-27-2009, 04:20 AM | #8 |
Roboskull Pilot
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"intentionally made ugly" presupposes that you think they are ugly. Clearly you (all) do, while I don't.
Looking at the NeoViper costumes in the 'Mission Dossier' book, I think they're beautiful designs.
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08-27-2009, 04:20 AM | #9 |
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As with the prior expressed opinions, I think it's just a case of poor design on the part of the film's design team. It's not so much that I think the designs are "ugly" per se (as stand-alone costumes, I suppose they're okay), it's that I think they fail to capitalise on the distinct and iconic features we've come to associate with certain Cobra characters.
It's important to keep in mind that the "ugly" designs didn't come from Hasbro, they came from the RoC film's costume design team. I actually asked this during a recent Hasbro Q&A via the Articulated Discussion blog: Quote:
Question 1: (From zuludelta) How much input did the toy designers and engineers have on the movie costume designs (if any)?
Answer: The toy design team did give general input on the movie script and costumes, but in general allowed the costume designers to focus on costumes and toy designers on the toys. Last edited by zuludelta; 08-27-2009 at 04:22 AM.. |
08-27-2009, 04:26 AM | #10 |
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I look at it as the "begining" of Cobra and now that Cobra Commander has emerged, he may change up the design of Cobra Trooper. Look at some of the flashbacks in the comic's of Cobra's early days people in civilian clothes wearing red bandana's over their faces.
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