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12-04-2022, 03:37 AM | #1 |
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What are your thoughts about the matter? I just got a second copy of him. I am doubting if keeping it as a trooper or not.
Value apart, it's filecard doesn't leave things clear, speaking only about him essentially. In the DIC cartoon I think he didn't even appear, so not much you can take from there. I wonder if he appeared in the comics? I am thinking he might be a bit like Wild Weasel, which is a character, but at least in UK comics, Rattler pilots are essentially identical. I suppose one can fairly say Vapor is a character, but do you think there should be more troopers identical to him? What do you do?
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12-04-2022, 04:30 AM | #2 |
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Reading the file card it sounds like Vapor is a unique soldier that had a lot of cybernetic stuff done to him, kind of like Overkill.
I would say there are other VTOL Cobra Hurricane Pilots that probably wear similar things. the helmet is not unique from the way its worded. Vapor though is the only VTOL Pilot with the cybernetic eye shunts into his visual cortex though. The card doesn't say all VTOL pilots have these augmentations and specifically only mentions Vapor. Edit: I'd just call the extra figure a Cobra Hurricane Pilot and maybe give them a slight different paint job or decal on the helmet and keep Vapor as a unique character in the display as well. Last edited by sisco; 12-04-2022 at 04:35 AM.. |
12-04-2022, 04:43 AM | #3 |
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To me the filecard sounds like it is of a unique character, not an army builder.
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12-04-2022, 05:10 AM | #4 |
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The file card for Vapor, the 1990 VTOL tactical fighter pilot, was worded in such a way that he appears to be a singular character that pilots the Cobra Hurricane, and this was also true of the Decimator figure that drives the Hammerhead submersible sea tank.
My guess is that children were never expected to army build such rare and expensive figures in 1990, so they were marketed in that way. Personally, I choose to imagine the Vapor and the Decimator to be army builders, even if they were not originally intended that way. The threat matrix in G.I. Joe: America's Elite issue 25 seems to indicate that Vapor is meant to be a unique character, even though he isn't actually used in the comic book. Vapor is mentioned on his file card to have an uncanny ability to knock out almost every enemy fighter in the air during a half hour before he blacks out. That means Cobra must scrape him up with a spatula quite often, or else maybe he is one very lucky pilot, always waking up just before crashing. The 2003 Air-Viper members are pilot trainees that look identical to Vapor, except for uniform colors, because they are manufactured using the 1990 Vapor molds. There are many of them, so maybe there can be many Vapor VTOL tactical fighter pilots too, because we know that there are multiple Cobra Hurricanes as illustrated on the box artwork. I don't remember which DIC cartoon episode features Vapor.
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12-04-2022, 05:46 AM | #5 |
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No question he is a unique, singular character. His filecard always refers to him as he or him or his. All Cobra troop file cards refer to them as they or they're or their or them.
Also, this line: "Vapor is an unbeatable sky warrior..." implies he is one man. If he were a trooper. that line would have read "Vapors are unbeatable sky warriors...". Decimator's card is weird, it almost sounds like he is a single character, but then it says "the Decimator's helmet...". It would or should say "Decimator's helmet..." if he was a unique non-trooper character. I still lean towards him being unique, but that one line really sounds like he is a troop after all.
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12-04-2022, 09:09 AM | #6 |
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Unique just like the aero viper that piloted the condor. Not everyone has a black goatee.
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12-04-2022, 09:22 AM | #7 |
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Decimator's card is weird, it almost sounds like he is a single character, but then it says "the Decimator's helmet...". It would or should say "Decimator's helmet..." if he was a unique non-trooper character. I still lean towards him being unique, but that one line really sounds like he is a troop after all.
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12-04-2022, 09:53 AM | #8 |
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Very interesting replies! yes, good call about the Air Viper. It indeed looks as if Vapor is a special, leader, or top pilot of the Air Vipers.
Googling apparently appears in this DIC episode; https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/The_Mind_Mangler I am rewatching the whole series and I'll eventually get there (I am at the 11th episode) but I bet there only appears one Vapor. It seems I have to sell it to get an Air Viper... .
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12-04-2022, 10:46 AM | #9 |
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I thought he was a unique character. Same as Wild weasel. It also says on the box art for the hurricane that it was designed for any Joeblow with pilot skills could fly it. That being said a pilot should be designed for it. Now that its been put out there. we have never gotten an official Rattler pilot and gunner. or even a gunner for Wild Weasel. The Raven has the Strato-Vipers and they even made Fang pilots. AS far as Decimator..the Hammerhead carries 6 men. Even the box art has 6 guys dressed the same. hmmm interesting.
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12-04-2022, 11:38 AM | #10 |
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