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11-26-2022, 09:41 PM | #1 |
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Hi, can anyone tell me Serpentor's generally-accepted canon? Whether from original Marvel comics, original cartoon, or Devil's Due (?) comic series.
I vaguely remember he and Cobra Commander clashing. Was it Cobra Commander's idea to "revive" him (he's, like, either Alexander the Great with Ramses the Great's DNA or some sort of combination of "the greatest military minds" (?)). Or did Destro "revive" him to create a rival faction against Cobra Commander? Granted, LOL, I suppse I can make up whatever I want for my home toy display. But I'd like know what I'd be changing. Are the Twins (Tomax and Xamot) loyal to Cobra Commander ("CC")? I vaguely remember Baroness and Bludd trying to overthrow CC. But in my mind, I keep imagining Destro and Serpentor as being in on something. I'm certain wikipedia can give me the lowdown but I want see if the subject interests forum members to chat about. If you have your own "story" that you like better than whatever the canon is, feel free to share! Last edited by meihuar2006; 11-26-2022 at 09:43 PM.. |
11-26-2022, 09:43 PM | #2 |
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Considering Serpentor lashed the Baroness across his HISS tank in the comic, I think he's lucky Zartan killed him first and not Destro.
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11-26-2022, 09:53 PM | #3 |
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If I remember correctly from the miniseries, Destro and Dr. MB lost faith in CC's leadership. So they came up with the plan to create a Cobra emperor.
This story was retconed or modified by the '87 movie, in that the idea was planted into Dr. MB's head via a dream from Golobulus from Cobra-La.
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11-26-2022, 10:04 PM | #4 |
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Serpentor is created primarily by Mindbender to overthrow Cobra Commander in a scheme later revealed to have come from the Cobra La folk in the cartoon. CC eventually turns him into an iguana and retakes the organization because the toon gets a little wacky. But either way.
In the comics, Serpentor is created with CC's support. It's not until later that he realizes that Serpy is gonna take power from him because of the DNA he's been created with. He's eventually killed in the Cobra Civil War by Zartan, but, at this point, CC is presumed dead and has been replaced by one of his Crimson Guardsmen. Devil's Due comics has a splinter faction of Cobra called The Coil who bring him back. He winds up getting killed by The Commander in the best CC moment ever. He comes back in Hama's ARAHv2, but idk the circumstances. He never actually goes away in the old Filecard continuity, but it's also never really spelled out what his relationship with The Commander is. I personally liked to use him as Cobra's figurehead and field commander while CC pulled the strings from inside the Terror Drome.
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11-26-2022, 10:26 PM | #5 |
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He's Cobra's emperor with various degrees of backstory canon, the Classified version seems to be based off the mini-series from the backside of the box
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11-27-2022, 03:02 AM | #6 |
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In the comics, he was created to be the perfect Cobra soldier, using the DNA of various leaders or military thinkers like Alexander the Great, Sun-Tzu, Napoleon, Julius Caesar. This had the unfortunate (for CC) side-effect of making him extremely ambitious and charismatic and he overthrew CC after he lead the Cobra forces defence of Springfield during the Joes' attack. It wasn't a bloody coup, more CC getting side-lined and then forced into accepting Serpy's leadership at first and then Serpy took full command after CC supposedly died during the attack on PIT II along side Destro.
that's the comics version. |
11-27-2022, 04:55 PM | #7 |
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On the subject of Serpentor, does anyone else think it's amazing that Comic Pack Serpentor is basically Bruce Campbell? And jumping off that point, how awesome would Bruce Campbell be as Serpentor?
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11-27-2022, 06:29 PM | #8 |
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We got to see some of that with Evil Ash in Army of Darkness. Yet, if we are finding work for Bruce he should do Ash in Marvel Zombies first.
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11-28-2022, 09:54 AM | #9 |
Iron Grenadier
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I could go for Evil Ash-style Serpentor.....but hear me out: How hilarious would it be if he played Serpentor like he does Ash? Responding to CC's rants with clever one-liners, making Baroness swoon, all sorts of great "Hail to the king" moments.....all while he's dressed as a big ole snake.
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Yet, if we are finding work for Bruce he should do Ash in Marvel Zombies first.
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11-28-2022, 12:24 PM | #10 |
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i used the mcdonald's action man head for my ash customs.
when i think of serpentor, i dont think of the coil. that's new nonsense. i use him like captain america for cobra. just like super trooper is captain america for gijoe. |
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