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10-25-2022, 08:45 AM | #21 |
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Has it ever been said what the military strength Cobra has ie: total troops, divisions, armor divisions, fighter wings? I would be curious to what their total man power is.
I imagine its left up to the imagination of the person, but in the mini series Arise Sepentor Arise, when Cobra launched its attack in Washington DC they appeared to have a large force, and did over run the city.
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10-25-2022, 12:07 PM | #22 |
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This is something that I have often given great thought. As you might have guessed, the Twins are my favorite characters in the mythos, and I would like to do right by them and the CGs. In my head, CGs are the elites of the Cobra corps. Only Cobra Officers can move on to the ranks of the CGs, mostly because of their higher education positions within society. They do their best to manipulate the world around their goals through 'legitimate' means.
I do see Extensive Enterprises as a legit business in my world. It probably has many subsidiaries that branch into many different fields. The further away from the home company, the more shady, Cobra related operations you can find. I also feel the Twins have more power within the Cobra organization than they have been credited with in canon stories. After all, they would have a ton of money with their legit businesses and potentially a lot of political power as well with CGs placed in the right environments. This could be a good explanation for politicians seemingly going rogue over certain legislature too. The CGs can be asked to fight if necessary, but their uniforms depicted on the figures are obviously dress uniforms. They are more ceremonial than functional. You would need a new figure that properly depicts a more field appropriate uniform, even if their primary use should be to oversee the missions from a tactical leader aspect. |
10-25-2022, 12:20 PM | #23 |
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The CGs can be asked to fight if necessary, but their uniforms depicted on the figures are obviously dress uniforms. They are more ceremonial than functional. You would need a new figure that properly depicts a more field appropriate uniform, even if their primary use should be to oversee the missions from a tactical leader aspect.
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10-25-2022, 07:00 PM | #24 |
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Has it ever been said what the military strength Cobra has ie: total troops, divisions, armor divisions, fighter wings? I would be curious to what their total man power is.
I imagine its left up to the imagination of the person, but in the mini series Arise Sepentor Arise, when Cobra launched its attack in Washington DC they appeared to have a large force, and did over run the city. |
10-25-2022, 07:08 PM | #25 |
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This is something that I have often given great thought. As you might have guessed, the Twins are my favorite characters in the mythos, and I would like to do right by them and the CGs. In my head, CGs are the elites of the Cobra corps. Only Cobra Officers can move on to the ranks of the CGs, mostly because of their higher education positions within society. They do their best to manipulate the world around their goals through 'legitimate' means.
I do see Extensive Enterprises as a legit business in my world. It probably has many subsidiaries that branch into many different fields. The further away from the home company, the more shady, Cobra related operations you can find. I also feel the Twins have more power within the Cobra organization than they have been credited with in canon stories. After all, they would have a ton of money with their legit businesses and potentially a lot of political power as well with CGs placed in the right environments. This could be a good explanation for politicians seemingly going rogue over certain legislature too. The CGs can be asked to fight if necessary, but their uniforms depicted on the figures are obviously dress uniforms. They are more ceremonial than functional. You would need a new figure that properly depicts a more field appropriate uniform, even if their primary use should be to oversee the missions from a tactical leader aspect. As for the CGs being elite soldiers, this begs a bigger question. I think Cobra troopers and officrs are like Army officers, more of an occupying force vice an invasion force. I see the Cobra Vipers like the Marines as more an invasion force. I see the CGs are more like a legit private military. Now, Where do I see Crimson Vipers? I guess more like a special operations force but this doesn't account for blue vipers within regular Cobra. I see EE as a legit company fomenting all kinds of trouble. Like the Syndicate in Mission Impossible. I see Crimson Asp as the CGs resident saboteur and bomb-maker for just such occasions as blowing up a commercial airliner while making it look like some nation Cobra wants to invade or wants to pull the strings behind the scenes to start a civil war that destabilizes a region and the Joes have to respond to.... To be honest, I think real world analogs are much more interesting than some of the nutty stuff in the comics. Makes these characters and their roles have much more depth.... |
10-25-2022, 07:38 PM | #26 |
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Interestingly, CGs are called "shock troops" on their file card. Aren't shock troops the first guys in? Also, it's kind of the opposite of the statement "too good to waste on the battle field."Honestly, every battle needs an accountant to keep track of cost. If a CG has to shoot someone while doing his job, so be it.
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10-26-2022, 05:41 AM | #27 |
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Interestingly, CGs are called "shock troops" on their file card. Aren't shock troops the first guys in? Also, it's kind of the opposite of the statement "too good to waste on the battle field."Honestly, every battle needs an accountant to keep track of cost. If a CG has to shoot someone while doing his job, so be it.
Since you mentioned the term shock troops, for me the Vipers fit that role. All the other specialized Vipers require a Cobra soldier has to do two years as a regular Viper before trying out. Last edited by CG Steve; 10-26-2022 at 05:49 AM.. |
10-26-2022, 07:15 AM | #28 |
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That is for sure a contradiction. There isn't going to be one real world organization that matches the characters/organizations perfectly but as you pointed out, the canon contradicts itself and although some were written well, my kid self just took whatever they gave me. Like Stasi said, as an adult collector, and for me prior service, this personal reimagining of beloved properties is the fun part.
Since you mentioned the term shock troops, for me the Vipers fit that role. All the other specialized Vipers require a Cobra soldier has to do two years as a regular Viper before trying out.
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10-26-2022, 08:01 AM | #29 |
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The thing about Vipers is their filecard says the backbone of the cobra legions, the bottom of the pyramid, so i consider them less shock troops and more standard infantry, its when they get promoted to a more specialized group, like the Alley-vipers who while they are urban assualt troops, they feel more like shock troops than a standard viper.
The accountants or loggies aren't generally in fighting roles for the most part. Based off the uniforms of the CGs, they def do not look like snake eaters. I def get a vibe of more PIC and PMC for sure.... |
10-26-2022, 10:33 AM | #30 |
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Vipers always felt odd as the lowly grunt dudes. Cobra Troopers/Infantry always seemed that way. Are Cobra Troopers/Infantry now above them?
Cobra is always odd because it seems like everyone is a shock troop. Vipers, CGs, BATs, Cobra Infantry. Hell, in the comics even the specialized troops seemed to be the first ones in grunts. |
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