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10-18-2022, 11:02 AM | #91 |
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Ruben's cool as shit. Not familiar with Daryn Marshall. However, it wouldn't be the first time a company has hired a highly qualified (providing he is) consultant and either ignored the counsel they paid for or thought they knew better and just ignored them altogether.
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I'm just bitching about guns, bruh. Not picking every single detail and making up shit about why the most incredible line of the last 30 years is TERRIBLE to the point of sounding absurd.
The thing is if you've grown up around guns and you design toys that use guns there's just things you wouldn't do because you understand the anatomy and function of them. All the whack shit the Joe team does with the guns smacks of "enough gross knowledge to be dangerous and enough mistakes to show your dipshittery." Quote:
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Your "explanations" are interesting but, my issue with them is they read as if from the perspective of someone that isn't a designer or an artist. I do not mean that as a slight. Successful art and design is largely about solid decisions. Classified firearms are riddled (HeHe) with so many bad ones that they seem to be made by someone that THINKS they are making correct decisions.
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I really don't want to see an updated Grunt with a rifle that was phased out 12 years ago. Though I wouldn't have an issue with an updated Grunt getting a M4, I'd prefer that he get a SIG 716 or the Spear Even if Grunt doesn't get the Spear this rifle needs to appear in the Classified Series at some point. For Grunt's pistol just give him the M18. What would be a good primary and secondary sidearm for the COBRA Troopers? What would be a good pistol for the Alley Viper considering his specialty. I was wondering what kind of rifle he have? Is it an amalgam rifle based on an AK platform? Is Outback's rifle a stockless M4 and what is his pistol? I was thinking about what the loadout should be for Classified Scarlett. Of course it's a no brainer that she gets a crossbow. She's get something like a PPK for her forearm holster. A knife based on a KA-BAR. Since her filecard implies that she was the O.G. 13's designated markswoman she might get a HK 417 Some sort of primary side arm with a [u]HIP HOLSTER[/I]! We need hip holsters in the Classified Series and of course her slingshot - https://niagarablue.com/products/pro...waAh3UEALw_wcB Just like D.T. is with Zandar's scarf, I feel the same way about Scarlett's slingshot. LOL. Why was Shana's slingshot lost in JOE lore and why wasn't more done with it? LOL.
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10-18-2022, 06:07 PM | #92 |
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I wanted get yours, firmpulse, and all the other gun enthusiasts opinion on something. If Grunt is an update what should his loadout be?
I really don't want to see an updated Grunt with a rifle that was phased out 12 years ago. Though I wouldn't have an issue with an updated Grunt getting a M4, I'd prefer that he get a SIG 716 or the Spear Even if Grunt doesn't get the Spear this rifle needs to appear in the Classified Series at some point. For Grunt's pistol just give him the M18. What would be a good primary and secondary sidearm for the COBRA Troopers? What would be a good pistol for the Alley Viper considering his specialty. I was wondering what kind of rifle he have? Is it an amalgam rifle based on an AK platform? Is Outback's rifle a stockless M4 and what is his pistol? I was thinking about what the loadout should be for Classified Scarlett. Of course it's a no brainer that she gets a crossbow. A knife based on a KA-BAR. Since her filecard implies that she was the O.G. 13's designated markswoman she might get a HK 417 Some sort of primary sidearm with a [u]HIP HOLSTER[/I]! We need hip holsters in the Classified Series and of course her slingshot I guess its what people want out of the loadouts, is it top of the line tech or realism, or fantasy? Everyone's mentioning the SIG Spear but it's fielded in very small numbers right now so is that what fans want or do they want iconic US firearms? There's the new HK MG5 which is often overlooked but wouldn've been good for Rock n Roll since I think the US did test it For Cobras, you've got Kalashnikov rifles (or the SVD could work like the POC Trooper has) but I think Chinese weapons like the QBZ series could work because they have lots of exotic designs from SMGs to DMR-type weapons There's tons of 90's Russian firearms from KBP too that haven't been in mainstream outside of some videogames However, we've seen Hasbro ignore realism in some cases-Zarana's using the newer SIG MCX with chainsaw We're seeing Joes ship with it now too, but Alley-Viper's one gun is 90% based on Kalashnikov's AKS-74u The S designates under folding or side folding stocks The u designates it's short-barreled You've mentioned Scarlett, one of the features the M17/M18 has is swappable frames for different-sized hands (specifically females) so honestly, she should have the M18 I'm thinking the Russian MP-443 Viking pistol would be good for Cobras too If you'd prefer Grunt has realism in his weapons choice, the HK416 is the obvious option since lots of countries have opted to buy them Last edited by GoodGuy9; 10-18-2022 at 06:10 PM.. |
10-19-2022, 07:29 AM | #93 |
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I like G.I. Joe using standard US military equipment with some sci-fi exceptions. Cobra is better using mostly sci-fi gear, since their main supplier is MARS and Destro. The Iron Grenadiers should use even more advanced, high tech stuff than Cobra, as Destro is more likely to hold his best stuff back for his own personal army. The Dreadnoks get older gear, that looks like it's pieced together from different weapons. Except Zartan. He gets top of the line stuff, because he gets most of the money thrown the Dreadnoks' way.
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10-19-2022, 10:20 AM | #94 |
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Destro eventually sees Zartan with his property and is rather perturbed that Zartan stole it, but he tells Zartan that since he was able to circumvent his security and leave with the pistol he deserves to have it, but if he's caught stealing from him again that him and all of the 'Noks will be killed and there's nothing C.C. can do to stop it. I do agree with you that a lot of 'Noks gear is repurposed. In my JOEverse Monkeywrench and Thrasher are the mechanics with Monkeywrench being a mechanical genius and the both of them are on some MacGyver/B.A. Baracus building type of shit.
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10-19-2022, 12:21 PM | #95 |
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I would expect by the time we get to Grunt in Classified he's going to be an upscale of the ARAH original figure complete with outdated weapons.
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10-19-2022, 12:35 PM | #96 |
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For me (as his call sign implies,) Grunt is the JOE team's representative for the average everyday soldier and his loadout should reflect what the average soldier is using or what they would possibly be using. If a vintage design is going to be used for a figure in Classified then he should get his vintage loadout as well.
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10-19-2022, 05:17 PM | #97 |
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10-19-2022, 05:48 PM | #98 |
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And yeah, Grunt, too needs a weapon that's been designed sometime in the last forty years. Preferably ten. |
10-19-2022, 07:32 PM | #99 |
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I smell a dedicated thread just for 'the slingshot'...
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10-19-2022, 11:52 PM | #100 |
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Well I wouldn't want Grunt to be TOO updated, to the point where he's GINO (Grunt In Name Only). You should be able to look at the figure without seeing the name, and know who it is.
Compare the attached pics, what Grunt looked like in 1982, and what a modern Infantryman looks like (and even that pic is probably outdated at the pace modern warfare changes). In summary, I definitely want him to have an M-16 or something in that family, solid green cammies, and an updated helmet and web gear, but no night vision or anything like that. Save that for Recoil! Last edited by Cobra Agent 66; 10-19-2022 at 11:54 PM.. Reason: sp. |
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