[Jmacq1]

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Originally Posted by AWOL

Delta Force had just been formed a couple of years earlier, which makes me wonder if Hama thought of the Joes as a stand-in for said unit.

It was unquestionably an inspiration, right down to the disastrous first mission that led to Snake-Eyes disfigurement being a thinly-veiled version of the "Desert One" incident that brought Delta to public awareness in the first place.

But I don't think it was ever truly intended to be "THE" Delta.

Joe being international ultimately isn't about us. It's about trying to position the brand for the future and as part of that to try to make it more marketable to places outside of the US. "Just change the name" isn't as easy as it sounds...that becomes a new product altogether, which is harder to market and has no built in cultural cachet. And also requires the expenditure of money to register trademarks when they can instead renew the trademarks they already have.

[AWOL]

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Originally Posted by Jmacq1

Joe being international ultimately isn't about us. It's about trying to position the brand for the future and as part of that to try to make it more marketable to places outside of the US.

Which begs the question: Does Europe have it's own homegrown action figure line?

[Joe Spartan]

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Originally Posted by Playful

You make a very good point and gave me reason to consider if G.I. Joe was ever a Joint Task Force or not. The Secretary of Defense has the authority to create one, but I am not sure if we have ever seen the G.I. Joe team give "special consideration to maximizing integration of forces in both planning and execution", which is required by instruction.

The next question I have is if Cobra were ever to operate in the United States, can foreign military forces be allowed to engage in combat within US borders? I don't think that would ever be allowed under present law.

The final consideration I had regarding whether or not G.I. Joe is a Joint Task Force is regarding the battles which have already occurred with Cobra in the United States, without G.I. Joe integrating State and local law enforcement, which would be required by law if it were a Joint Task Force.

I think bringing up the Joe Team operating on US soil opens up an entirely new can of worms if we are debating the legal aspects of the Joe team. The short answer is even the American forces should not be operating on US soil if the Joe team is part of the US military (unless under very specific circumstances). But we are talking about a toy line, so I don't dig that deep.

But in my own personal verse: The Joes have an American base (The PIT), staffed with American personal (which would respond to any domestic issues and can also deploy overseas) and they have an International Base (with a mixture of American / Coalition personal) so they can maintain their Rapid Deployment posture any where in the world. My current international base of choice is a secret part of Incirlik Air Base in Turkey given its proximity to several hot spots on the globe.

[Joe Spartan]

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Originally Posted by AWOL

Which begs the question: Does Europe have it's own homegrown action figure line?

I would say that "Action Force" was the European version of Joe. But since Hasbro no longer owns that trademark, that is not really an option.

[AWOL]

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Originally Posted by Joe Spartan

I would say that "Action Force" was the European version of Joe. But since Hasbro no longer owns that trademark, that is not really an option.

Right, but Action Force had it's roots in Action Man, the British localization of the 12" G.I. Joe line.

I'm wondering if Europe has (or has ever had) an action-figure line created from the ground up within it's borders.

[Playful]

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Originally Posted by Joe Spartan

... My current international base of choice is a secret part of Incirlik Air Base in Turkey given its proximity to several hot spots on the globe.

Incirlik Air Base is nice, and a great choice for use in your Joeverse. I was there on orders in 2000 as part of Operation Northern Watch. Some parts of that installation had really tight security, which may or may not have contained a particular type of warhead. Just couldn't be caught running anywhere along the perimeter road at sunset (because the sentries were said to have itchy trigger fingers).

[THEDARKONE508]

I never cared this much. It goes into the weirdos that make gijoe super patriotic and weird.

Gijoes go wherever to fight cobra. Even space. Who cares.

[THEDARKONE508]

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Originally Posted by AWOL

I'm wondering if Europe has (or has ever had) an action-figure line created from the ground up within it's borders.

Nothing that seems to last. Off the top of my head Spain had madelman: https://www.yojoe.com/archive/actfig/madelman.shtml

They (Europe) pretty much gets what we get.

[AWOL]

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Originally Posted by THEDARKONE508

Off the top of my head Spain had madelman: https://www.yojoe.com/archive/actfig/madelman.shtml

Interesting.

This unreleased figure is the coolest looking one.

[CapBritain]

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Originally Posted by AWOL

Which begs the question: Does Europe have it's own homegrown action figure line?

Not any more. At least not in the UK.

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Originally Posted by AWOL

Right, but Action Force had it's roots in Action Man, the British localization of the 12" G.I. Joe line.

I'm wondering if Europe has (or has ever had) an action-figure line created from the ground up within it's borders.

UK had AF, Tommy Gunn back in the 1960s (a rival of Action Man), and HM Armed Forces, a 12in figure line based on... well, what it says, but it was essentially an MOD backed version of Action Man with realistic figures, weapons and some vehicles and no names to the soldiers beyond "Royal Marine", "Infantryman" etc. and some generic black-clad bad guy figure.