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07-21-2022, 05:14 AM | #21 |
Crimson Guard
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I stand partially corrected them. Mea Culpa!
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07-21-2022, 10:22 AM | #22 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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that was what was so funny to me about the skystriker. i have no nostalgia for the skystriker. or the meat tray styrofoam gliders everyone pays 3k for for some stupid reason. so. i didnt back the haslab for the skystriker. if they did the glider, at the prices hasbro expects for haslabs, LOL that's a disaster.
anyway, that's a blunt assessment of the quote. i dont glide into my nostalgia, im already buried under it. i never left. when everyone was like "i found beer!" "i wanted date money!" "i played football" i was farting around with gijoe parts and making new characters. what i didnt play with went to the attic and it's been coming back down as i shell myself into my own home that im going to have filled in with concrete like a pyramid when i die. Quote:
Shockingly, I don't necessarily disagree with this thesis. Particularly in that the ARAH brand is inherently '80s. Michael actually made a great point that I've been trying to preach myself: a great ARAH-inspired movie really ought to take place in the '80s in order to be the most successful and faithful adaptation it can be.
but yes. "video games are the problem." fart. Quote:
Larry Hama is our gracious God because he carved three dimensions into nearly all of our favorite Joes--something the original Joes totally lacked.
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Yes, the aesthetics of ARAH harken to decades past but do we cry nostalgia every time we get another Batman flick?
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ARAH didn't work because it was different, it worked because it was better...because it built a mythology, a lore, a pantheon. And a hearty one, too...fleshed out beyond cartoons aimed at grade schoolers
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with a truly fantastic comicbook penned by an industry titan (so, please don't use He-Man and Transformers to drag down Hama's baby).
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I'll end on this: clueless movie execs diluted and destroyed the essence of ARAH and Hasbro, themselves, tied the brand to an anchor through the '10s.
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That this mythos is strong, viable and ready to take on all comers. That the only reason it ever went away is because the wrong people got ahold of the steering wheel.
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And, in the end, Action Force doesn't and shouldn't need Joe to fail in order for it to become a success. But then again, if it does, doesn't that just mean it wasn't so new and fresh after all?
look at callsign longbow or operation recall. they're great toylines and neither need hasbro's 6" line or it's rereleased (same 8 characters every time) o-ring line to measure their own successes. recall is using hasbro employees when RAH was worth it's weight in the strongest most valuable substance in all the world and there isnt a single ounce of spite or negativity in that project - it's out of love for the ARAH line. what did bobby vala do? seriously though. what was his role at hasbro? Quote:
...oh. because he's still on it, but he's gotten worse instead of stagnating in ninja stories (which he is also doing). i hated what devils due did with gijoe, and was at first, happy he was back on gijoe when idw got gijoe...it's back to ninja crap he excelled in boring the shit out of me 30 years ago. my favorite gijoe story he didnt even touch - chuckles' mini series. |
07-21-2022, 10:27 AM | #23 |
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07-21-2022, 11:28 AM | #24 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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the ellipses was to transition into into the quote about larry hama and being the reason for not having had a great creative team behind them since the 80s because he's pretty much been on the book for whichever company short of ddp since it's inception.
i pointed at "trucial abysmal" being hte thing that killed the joe comics for me and being the reason why, but it was actually "benzheen". i dont recall what it was that the sawviper larry hama just murdered everything. |
07-21-2022, 12:36 PM | #25 |
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I 100% agree. I love GI Joe because it has just as much of a substantial mythos/narrative as OT Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, or Marvel Superheroes.
I don't need it expanded or rebooted or reimagined because the original mythology is just as relevant to me today as any other brand new property. Imagine if some company "reimagined" The Boys right now with a bunch of made up characters that aren't in the comic or show. That'd be ridiculous. And that's how I feel about GI Joe. It doesn't matter if came out in 1982 or 2022, I just love the characters and stories and want to see representations that match the media. I'm so sick of "nostalgia" being used as a dismissive and derogatory term as if it refers to stunted individuals who can't break free from the past. Hell literally everything in life except what's happening this very second is "in the past," (including the previous sentence I just typed, lol) so enjoy whatever you like regardless of what year it was originally released. If something that you love today also happens to trigger a warm and fuzzy memory from your childhood then that's just icing on the cake and nothing to be ashamed of. Last edited by Khev; 07-21-2022 at 12:41 PM.. |
07-21-2022, 01:14 PM | #26 |
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the ellipses was to transition into into the quote about larry hama and being the reason for not having had a great creative team behind them since the 80s because he's pretty much been on the book for whichever company short of ddp since it's inception.
i pointed at "trucial abysmal" being hte thing that killed the joe comics for me and being the reason why, but it was actually "benzheen". i dont recall what it was that the sawviper larry hama just murdered everything. |
07-21-2022, 01:19 PM | #27 |
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This video feels like a kid in high school writing an essay and doing his best to hit the word count. Couple solid points, but a lot of semi-contradictory things as well. The more he talks, the more he counters his own previous arguments.
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07-21-2022, 01:25 PM | #28 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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I thought you were talking about the comics. About the toys, i absolutely agree with you.
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07-21-2022, 01:26 PM | #29 |
Crimson Guard
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Frenchie.
Even when I agree with him, I still dislike him. He's the smug rich kid who think he knows it all and his opinion should hold more weight than anyone else's. |
07-21-2022, 01:30 PM | #30 |
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As far as the brand as a whole, I wouldn't mind seeing a total reimagining like they tried with Extreme. That said, there's no reason we couldn't also get ARAH products. |
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