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05-08-2022, 08:38 PM | #281 |
Just a fan
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Tell kids it from Japan.
lol It wouldn't be a stretch. The original storyteller is ethnically Japanese. The 80s cartoon was animated in Japan. Last edited by AWOL; 05-08-2022 at 08:41 PM.. |
05-08-2022, 09:19 PM | #282 |
Cobra Soldier
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Something similar to Castlevania on Netflix is what the franchise needs. It’s honestly weird that they haven’t done it yet considering Hasbro has War for Cybertron on Netflix and the animation executive in charge at Netflix is a huge fanboy.
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05-08-2022, 09:41 PM | #283 |
Iron Grenadier
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If not a cartoon, then an online videogame, maybe it's even better to engage kids nowadays. Seems like GI Joe is made for it. Fortnite could have easily been a GI Joe game. First person shooter and choosing a huge range of very individualized characters is right up GI Joe's alley. My caveat though is to bear in mind that properties don't last forever. None is promised a new generation of fans. GI Joe is almost 60 years old now. It came into the world at a time when covert teams grappling with shadowy evil organization was everywhere in entertainment. But that's fallen out of favour as a theme, in favour of grittier stories based on real conflicts and I think that's part of why GI Joe has struggled to keep a foothold. Again, I think a video game makes the most sense, as the format seems to have a broader thematic appetite than maybe conventional media does today. |
05-09-2022, 10:21 AM | #284 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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unplug your cable, plug in an antenna to a digital box (if they have that) that you must have for a tv signal, and watch tv saturday morning. there arent cartoons at all anymore on standard television. there havent been in 20 years. not every child has cable tv. not every child has disney+ or netflix. so, they can make a show, but not everyone is going to have access to it. and in usual hasbro fashion, where they go a third of the way and call it a failure, they dont see the other 2/3rds as the reason why. hasbro could have a gijoe cartoon tomorrow on paramount+ and only the people who are willing to subscribe to that can (but probably wont) watch it. you all grew up watching gijoe on standard 13 (if you were lucky) channel tv's. cartoons that way just do not exist anymore. if you want a cartoon, you have to pay for it. or watch 20-30 year old reruns on youtube... if that tv has a way to access the internet; or a pc of somekind at home. or a phone that the parent is willing to let their child sit in front of for 30minutes or more at a time. as far as im concerned, a wide audience cartoon just isnt going to happen and needs to be taken off the table. |
05-09-2022, 10:45 AM | #285 |
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this is the problem that a lot of people keep bringing up and just almost getting it.
unplug your cable, plug in an antenna to a digital box (if they have that) that you must have for a tv signal, and watch tv saturday morning. there arent cartoons at all anymore on standard television. there havent been in 20 years. not every child has cable tv. not every child has disney+ or netflix. so, they can make a show, but not everyone is going to have access to it. and in usual hasbro fashion, where they go a third of the way and call it a failure, they dont see the other 2/3rds as the reason why. hasbro could have a gijoe cartoon tomorrow on paramount+ and only the people who are willing to subscribe to that can (but probably wont) watch it. you all grew up watching gijoe on standard 13 (if you were lucky) channel tv's. cartoons that way just do not exist anymore. if you want a cartoon, you have to pay for it. or watch 20-30 year old reruns on youtube... if that tv has a way to access the internet; or a pc of somekind at home. or a phone that the parent is willing to let their child sit in front of for 30minutes or more at a time. as far as im concerned, a wide audience cartoon just isnt going to happen and needs to be taken off the table. Honestly? Hasbro could probably save themselves a buttload of cash by doing their own Cartoon. Releasing it on their Youtube channel, and running their own commercials during it. Lots of kids watch Youtube now. It's definitely a thing. Traditional media is dying, or in it's death throws.
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05-09-2022, 11:40 AM | #286 |
Fartbutt McGillicuddy
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yeah, the only way that it could ever be for everyone is if they put it on youtube on their gijoe channel (at no cost). my son watches a hell of a lot of old cartoons (he-man, bravestarr, sonic) on youtube.
if there's a paywall of any kind, and that's the only way to watch new and current cartoons now, it's dead on arrival. |
05-09-2022, 12:14 PM | #287 |
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If you have any interaction with kids & young people today you will figure out pretty quickly why
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05-09-2022, 02:34 PM | #288 |
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I'll say this, the toys sure as Hell aren't broken. I had a Derby party last weekend, and we had a bunch of kids 4-9 in my basement. I told them which toys they could play with...they ignored Ghostbusters, got out a few Power Rangers and MOTU, but had a huge war with literally every Joe figure and vehicle I said they could touch. None of these kids (except mine) could even name a Joe, but the figures and vehicles apparently provided everything they needed. They loved how you could "blow up" the '83 Headquarters with easy disassembly and the DTC HISS just about had its missile launchers worn out. And my ROC RHINO was well liked as well, with the slow deployment of the helicopter.
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05-09-2022, 02:43 PM | #289 |
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I can't believe we're still having this argument. We've been having it for ten or fifteen years at least.
GI Joe was popular in 80s for a number of reasons, but it simply can't be replicated again. It had its moment in the sun and it was fun, but it's over. Why can't fans just accept that? Children will never, ever, ever like GI Joe the way we did in the 80s. It just can't happen. Why can't you just enjoy what we have instead of wringing your hands cause little kids don't like it? Let them like what they like, and be happy about what we have, both then and now. |
05-09-2022, 04:18 PM | #290 |
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I will share my 2 cents on this given I have 4 kids so this is based on them and their friends.
Even kids that like toys seem to gravitate towards electronic media (shows, YouTube videos, and video games) if they are available. The amount of content on demand available to kids now is staggering. Back in the day once Sat morning cartoons were done there wasn't a whole lot of reason to want to keep watching what came on the TV. Now you can watch pretty much exactly what you want when you want. Also video games have now been refined/engineered to the point of basically creating an addiction and have a social element built in without having to go anywhere We have time limits and other means we use to restrict our kids so when those things aren't available they will play with toys periodically. I think this has reduced the overall demand for toys and narrowed down what is being bought to fewer brands. When they do play with toys or pick toys out they are drawn to brands that have a big presence in their lives either directly or through friends. Ninjago Legos which they got sucked into via the Netflix show, Minecraft (friends wearing Minecraft shirts and playing the video game), Mario stuff (video games) Octonauts (TV show), and Marvel Legends (numerous cartoons on Netflix, Disney Plus, they have learn to read Marvel books, young adult books at book fairs, the success with the live action movies has trickled down into clothing, memes, etc., and my least favorite Pokemon figures (show, cards, and Pokemon Go) As others have said I think GI Joe could theoretically come back, but it would require breaking through in categories other than toys. Toys are second, third, etc. to other things for a brand now a days. Hasbro isn't stupid you can see them trying things, but it is easier said than done to create a household brand name and maintain it. P.S. I thought it was interesting to see what Mattel is trying with having two animated series for MOTU one for younger audiences and one for older fans. |
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