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11-22-2021, 03:52 AM | #21 |
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"Actually, I could see the CG as more specialized like doing internal investigations for Cobra (fraud, murders within Cobra, stealing funds from Cobra, etc.). Sort of like the way the Army have the Criminal Investigative Division (CID) which is what Chuckles does. They also do protection for Cobra upper level leadership, etc. I could see that..."
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11-22-2021, 01:05 PM | #22 |
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Actually, I could see the CG as more specialized like doing internal investigations for Cobra (fraud, murders within Cobra, stealing funds from Cobra, etc.). Sort of like the way the Army have the Criminal Investigative Division (CID) which is what Chuckles does. They also do protection for Cobra upper level leadership, etc. I could see that.
I could also see the CG like a splinter of Cobra that is more private military that is paid by would-be despots to support military coups, etc. I can't quite figure out what they are but the Vipers are def the Rangers of Cobra. The Eels are the SEALs, Snow Serpents are like the Army 10th Mountain...Actually, this would actually be its own cool thread.... Last edited by Chucez; 11-22-2021 at 01:08 PM.. |
11-22-2021, 03:10 PM | #23 |
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Cobra's a fictional/fantasy organization that exists in a fictionalized world that may or may not include transforming robots from outer space, giant monsters beneath the earth, or any other of a host of Hasbro properties. They are as small or as large as the plot of whatever adaptation its in demands (or the imagination of the kid/"big kid" playing with them deems necessary).
It isn't meant to adhere to reality, but honestly 250K foot soldiers for an organization that's generally depicted as a genuine existential threat to freedom and liberty worldwide is not so unbelievable. You're never going to see all 250K in one place at one time (spread all over the world). So you don't have to worry about the Joes having to fight them all at once and generally they've got "plot armor" anyway. I mean in one of their more recent incarnations (Renegades) Cobra was depicted as a conspiracy behind a global corporation that seemed to be Blackwater, Lockheed-Martin, Amazon, and Wal-Mart all rolled into one. Worldwide Amazon employs over a million people by themselves. Point being, it's not real, and trying to push that square peg into a round hole is likely to lead to headaches if it's anything more than a fun thought exercise. |
11-22-2021, 03:15 PM | #24 |
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good point well made.
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11-22-2021, 03:38 PM | #25 |
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11-22-2021, 03:56 PM | #26 |
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Cobra's a fictional/fantasy organization that exists in a fictionalized world that may or may not include transforming robots from outer space, giant monsters beneath the earth, or any other of a host of Hasbro properties. They are as small or as large as the plot of whatever adaptation its in demands (or the imagination of the kid/"big kid" playing with them deems necessary).
It isn't meant to adhere to reality, but honestly 250K foot soldiers for an organization that's generally depicted as a genuine existential threat to freedom and liberty worldwide is not so unbelievable. You're never going to see all 250K in one place at one time (spread all over the world). So you don't have to worry about the Joes having to fight them all at once and generally they've got "plot armor" anyway. I mean in one of their more recent incarnations (Renegades) Cobra was depicted as a conspiracy behind a global corporation that seemed to be Blackwater, Lockheed-Martin, Amazon, and Wal-Mart all rolled into one. Worldwide Amazon employs over a million people by themselves. Point being, it's not real, and trying to push that square peg into a round hole is likely to lead to headaches if it's anything more than a fun thought exercise. But somehow, you failed to understand much of this conversation. Never was there a question if children were capable of imagining Cobra, or any other fictional bad guys, nor was there any question of how large or small a childish mind can imagine such an organization. Instead, a group of G.I. Joe enthusiasts, (with many if not all of them in their adult years), were sharing their own unique perspectives and opinions regarding the fictional army of COBRA from their own, often adult, point of view. Laughably, you also summarized your statement about another fictional representation of COBRA (as imagined in the recent Renegades cartoon series) by comparing it to other real-world corporations and companies as if to justify the size that private corporations can grow to under the protection of the United States armed forces has any direct relationship to how large the adversaries of the United States armed forces can become. And how is that any different from comparing it to the sizes of other real-world armies or terrorist organizations as was done earlier in this thread? It isn't. Whether or not 250K foot soldiers for an organization that's generally depicted as a genuine existential threat to freedom and liberty worldwide is believable, or not so unbelievable, to others would largely depend on how much or how little one already knows about this world. The younger and less knowledgeable the mind, the more believable something can become.
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11-22-2021, 04:05 PM | #27 |
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Well, there's a newsflash for us. You figured out recently that fiction isn't real, and wanted to share that news with us? Thank you for that. If I ever meet a G.I. Joe collector that has a question about that, I can direct them to your post in this thread.
But somehow, you failed to understand much of this conversation. Never was there a question if children were capable of imagining Cobra, or any other fictional bad guys, nor was there any question of how large or small a childish mind can imagine such an organization. Instead, a group of G.I. Joe enthusiasts, (with many if not all of them in their adult years), were sharing their own unique perspectives and opinions regarding the fictional army of COBRA from their own, often adult, point of view. Laughably, you also summarized your statement about another fictional representation of COBRA (as imagined in the recent Renegades cartoon series) by comparing it to other real-world corporations and companies as if to justify the size that private corporations can grow to under the protection of the United States armed forces has any direct relationship to how large the adversaries of the United States armed forces can become. And how is that any different from comparing it to the sizes of other real-world armies or terrorist organizations as was done earlier in this thread? It isn't. Whether or not 250K foot soldiers for an organization that's generally depicted as a genuine existential threat to freedom and liberty worldwide is believable, or not so unbelievable, to others would largely depend on how much or how little one already knows about this world. The younger and less knowledgeable the mind, the more believable something can become. |
11-22-2021, 04:11 PM | #28 |
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No apology is necessary.
Not only do I expect you to stand by it, but I expect you to own it.
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11-22-2021, 04:16 PM | #29 |
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I get what you were saying. Based on my reading of each post, it doesn't seem like anyone was treating it as more than just a fun thought exercise, but I coudld be wrong.
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11-22-2021, 04:16 PM | #30 |
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For someone called "Playful" you're awfully angry for no discernible reason.
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