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09-14-2021, 10:31 PM | #501 |
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I think perhaps another forum would be the answer. There are plenty to choose from.
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09-14-2021, 10:38 PM | #502 |
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Another falsehood. First 2% mortality rate is catastrophic. Any higher than that and you’re talking Apocalypse. And the rest of your opening statement is based on a lie. Find new sources.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-263465830283 “ CLAIM: The CDC will no longer report COVID-19 cases of people who have been vaccinated, only cases of unvaccinated people. AP ASSESSMENT: False. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports all cases of COVID-19, even if someone has been vaccinated. THE FACTS: On Tuesday, an Instagram post circulated stating: “The CDC will no longer report covid cases of those who have been vaccinated, only unvaccinated.” But this claim is not accurate. COVID-19 is a reportable condition, meaning that by law every positive test must be reported. The National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System requires testing sites and medical facilities to report positive tests to the local health department. They then pass the information to the state health department, which notifies the CDC. “CDC is not going to stop reporting cases of COVID-19 in any fashion,” says Kristen Nordlund, health communication specialist at the CDC. You just don’t understand the meaning of immunity or the purpose of vaccines. That is a gap in your knowledge, not a mistake on the scientists part. Again, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how vaccines work. No vaccines is a cure. Vaccines help you create antibodies that kill the disease AFTER YOU ARE INFECTED. They don’t prevent infection. If you are infected with a disease you are vaccinated against, you will have a low viral load, you will have a low chance of transmission and your body will do away with virus infinitely faster. If everyone is vaccinated, the disease will die out eventually. Primitive Smallpox vaccines started in the 1700s and the disease was declared extinct in 1977. Measles, Mumps, Whooping Cough still exist and they were close to being completely eradicated in the wild until anti-Vaxxers stopped getting the MMR vaccine. Again, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how vaccines work. That’s not the. CDC’s fault. Wow so many falsehoods. The mark of a true scientist is being willing to change your opinion based on evidence. We were learning about this virus in the fly. When Fauci learned new info, he was willing to change his recommendation. The vaccines went through trials and were tested on tens of thousands of people before it was approved for emergency use. More than most drugs approved by the FDA. Moderna had been testing other mRNA vaccines on humans for over 3 years. By the time the first person got the vaccine IT WAS LONGER I THE TRIAL STAGE. Again… false information. If you found credible sources you would change your tune. Hey man, I have been reading your posts and you are a total mark for the establishment, the CDC, and Little Lord Fauci. You say Fauci changed his views because as a scientist, he learned on the fly and had to make adjustments. The mask thing, he has admitted to lying about it so the general public would not buy masks and cause a shortage, not because he gained knowledge about transmission. Also, he states his views as absolute truths, then, sometimes in a matter of 2 or 3 days, he will state the exact opposite. The guy is a bullshit artist. He is the highest paid employee in the federal government and nothing but a low-life politician. He does not believe the general public should be dealt with honestly. Fauci's actions indicate that he is an elitist, and he has nothing but contempt for the American people. You also say that the MRNA vaccines have gone through rigorous trials, being tested on way more subjects than most vaccines. This is a total load of shit. This information is out there, but simply put, why would it normally take a decade (that's optimistic) to produce a new vaccine if this one had gone through the same hurdles. We have no idea what the long-term effects of the vaccines will be on different sets of the population, and we have no idea what boosters will do long-term (small set of people began receiving a third and fourth shot in April or May I think). Also, blaming Anti-Vax people for a resurgence of whooping cough, measles, and mumps? You live in Northern California, right? If you were further south, you might notice all the illegals creeping up from the border. Mexico's vaccination program sucks (or is non-existent in most areas). Illegals have been bringing that shit into the country for the last 3 decades, causing regular outbreaks in CA and southwestern states. Bottomline, these "vaccines" are not vaccines as we have come to know them. They are more in line with flu shots, which were never referred to as vaccines until the last few months. The coronavirus vaccines provide pretty good protection from infection for probably about 4 months. And that was protection from the "original" virus. Right now it appears that if you become infected after vaccination, at least the illness will be less intense. However, if the trends seen in other countries hold, that benefit will disappear. Then I will be anxious to see how the establishment and their sheep spin the issue. However they spin it, it will be in a way that seeks to ostracize one segment of the population. They will blame a group of their political enemies. Less than 30% of African-Americans are vaccinated nationwide, but we never hear anything about that. That's because the people pushing this bullshit need the black vote. I'm not even going to get into natural immunity, which Fauci will never mention (and will deflect when asked directly like on CNN the other day). Having had and recovered from the Chinese Coronavirus, I am in much better shape than those double vaxxed. But if the assholes in charge tell everyone that, there will be too much money left on the table! And notice I will not refer to this illness as Covid 19. That is just a bullshit euphemism to deflect responsibility away from the cause of this nightmare - the Chinese Communist Party.
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09-14-2021, 10:58 PM | #503 |
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Just a quick reminder to members that there's an ignore list here you can add names of undesirables/deplorables to and you won't see their posts. If nothing else, this thread should have shown you who is worth listening to and who isn't. I know my ignore list is full up with brainwashed bullshitting conservotwats now, and yours should be too! (Or packed full of commie libtards, I guess, if that's how you stumble). The best thing is, if you find some hard to find piece of shit toy and offer it up to fellow stankers, you won't have to deal with them begging for it/whining that you're a scalper. Regardless, get your lame asses back to chatting about stupid kid's toys.
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09-14-2021, 11:04 PM | #504 |
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I wouldn’t ever block anyone unless they were personally insulting me. Especially not over a difference of views. The only way the two sides are going to live with each other is if they learn where the other is coming from. But to each his own.
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09-14-2021, 11:14 PM | #505 |
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You would think, but these fuckers spam the comment forums of pretty much any website you go to nowadays anyway. It's ridiculous. Can't even read about a car without running into this shit.
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09-14-2021, 11:46 PM | #506 |
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At least you admit we are dealing with “opinions” and not facts.
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09-15-2021, 12:03 AM | #507 |
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Another falsehood. First 2% mortality rate is catastrophic. Any higher than that and you’re talking Apocalypse. And the rest of your opening statement is based on a lie. Find new sources.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-263465830283 “ CLAIM: The CDC will no longer report COVID-19 cases of people who have been vaccinated, only cases of unvaccinated people. AP ASSESSMENT: False. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports all cases of COVID-19, even if someone has been vaccinated. THE FACTS: On Tuesday, an Instagram post circulated stating: “The CDC will no longer report covid cases of those who have been vaccinated, only unvaccinated.” But this claim is not accurate. COVID-19 is a reportable condition, meaning that by law every positive test must be reported. The National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System requires testing sites and medical facilities to report positive tests to the local health department. They then pass the information to the state health department, which notifies the CDC. “CDC is not going to stop reporting cases of COVID-19 in any fashion,” says Kristen Nordlund, health communication specialist at the CDC. “However, mild and asymptomatic COVID-19 breakthrough cases, which occur after someone has been fully vaccinated, will no longer be published separately on the CDC’s website.” Please explain to my under-educated self why the CDC would “no longer publish separately” mild and asymptomatic Covid-19 breakthrough cases? When they obviously publish mild and asymptomatic Covid-19 cases in the unvaccinated. Again seems disingenuous to me to not give us all the “evidence” so we can make our own opinions. |
09-15-2021, 12:48 AM | #508 |
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I read your AP news link. Pulled this out of it.
“However, mild and asymptomatic COVID-19 breakthrough cases, which occur after someone has been fully vaccinated, will no longer be published separately on the CDC’s website.” Please explain to my under-educated self why the CDC would “no longer publish separately” mild and asymptomatic Covid-19 breakthrough cases? When they obviously publish mild and asymptomatic Covid-19 cases in the unvaccinated. Again seems disingenuous to me to not give us all the “evidence” so we can make our own opinions. |
09-15-2021, 07:08 AM | #509 |
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“State health departments voluntarily report vaccine breakthrough cases to CDC. As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from publicly reporting the passive surveillance of all vaccine breakthrough cases on the website to focus on hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases due to any cause.” Ok, I was wrong on how they are being disingenuous. They are counting all Covid infections (in regards to mortality rates) they are NOT counting all breakthroughs as breakthroughs. Like I said you gotta end up real sick in the hospital. That way when then tout high numbers of Covid in certain areas, you don’t know how many of those positive cases were vaxxed or not. There are three kinds of lies....lies, damned lies and statistics https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html |
09-15-2021, 09:56 AM | #510 |
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The issue is its part of a pattern. There seems to be a willingness to use immoral or wrong actions to achieve a goal believed to be moral or correct. Trumps a bad president therfore its ok to lie misrepresent (Russia collusion hoax, very fine people hoax, Russian bounty hoax, etc). We believe in Racial justice therefore its ok to lie or misrepresent (Jussie Smollett, Covington kids, mostly peaceful protests, summer of love etc). We need to have facemasks for medical personnel therefore it's ok to lie and say it won't help the general public to wear a mask. We wanted to get out of Afghanistan before or around the 911 anniversary, therfore its ok to lie and say we had no idea the Taliban would seize Kabul. We wanted to get people vaccinated so we included all the breakthrough vaccinated cases in with the regular covid cases then used that number as talking point to get people vaccinated. It doesn't matter if your goals are correct and moral if the process to achieve them is immoral. What we are seeing all around us in a number of different areas, covid included, is the cost of lies.
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