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09-09-2021, 07:50 PM | #31 |
Iron Grenadier
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The first lines of the opening of the cartoon are "he'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble" so is freedom the choice to have a medical procedure, or to have it mandated and forced upon someone?
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09-09-2021, 07:52 PM | #32 |
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I love when people state it's their choice to refuse a vaccine that would save their life. Unbelievable.
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09-09-2021, 07:57 PM | #33 |
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And besides if they trust the vax and their masks then why would forcing someone else to do it help them? If it worked it wouldn't matter. |
09-09-2021, 08:02 PM | #34 |
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I love it lol. Good point
That's not the point. The point is everyone should and does have the right to choose what they want to do. No one and I mean no one can force it upon those who don't want it. And besides if they trust the vax and their masks then why would forcing someone else to do it help them? If it worked it wouldn't matter.
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09-09-2021, 08:07 PM | #35 |
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They force it cause some are too selfish to take it themselves when it would help them and others. 99.9% of those in the hospital and dying are those without it. Less than one are those with the vaccine. It doesn't take rocket science. Hell go ahead and not get it. Nature will weed out the idiots.
It is like smoking. Some of you smokers are too inconsiderate to not smoke around those who do not so they mandate some places non smoking. If you idiots took it upon yourselves to be responsible then they wouldn't tell you to do it or require it. It is a fucking shot in the arm. Hell you put worse things in your body everyday. What are you worried about? Looking like a wuss? You look more like a wuss when your to scared to take a shot. It is dumb. They teach this in high school Biology. Simple science. If you get sick and die or your relatives die because they didn't take the extra effort and be responsible and the only reason was because your feelings are hurt from being told to do it I am starting to have a hard time feeling bad for your type. You had a chance and didn't take it but I guess ignorance is bliss. Good riddance. Quote:
I love it lol. Good point
That's not the point. The point is everyone should and does have the right to choose what they want to do. No one and I mean no one can force it upon those who don't want it. And besides if they trust the vax and their masks then why would forcing someone else to do it help them? If it worked it wouldn't matter.
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09-09-2021, 08:11 PM | #36 |
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The point is you can become an asymptomatic carrier and infect someone with a compromised immune system. Or an elderly family member. This was never about rights. It's about healthcare. Which is why there's over 11 different variants rolling around right now. Because mutations occur in unvaccinated people. But what do I know, I've only worked in healthcare for 22 years caring for the elderly. And when it all started back then I've lost over 20 patients and 2 family members. But yeah, let's protect those rights...
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09-09-2021, 08:11 PM | #37 |
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Let's say you were deemed an essential worker and as a result already had covid twice. You have natural immunity according to the science, and while rare there have been reactions and even deaths from the vaccine. The age group you are in also has around a 99 percent recovery rate from the virus. You also know that if in the rare event you have health complications from the vaccine, the manufacturer or the people who mandate it are immune from any liability. What's the bigger risk? Everyone's health situation is different.
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09-09-2021, 08:14 PM | #38 |
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Also what about the people that don't trust the vax? There is an incredible amount of evidence of people having major issue after taking it. There are many reasons to be pro vax and anti vax (I am only talking about COVID here). What someone does is their choice.
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09-09-2021, 08:21 PM | #39 |
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Yes people do but its like a very small chance of it. Your listening to others and not doing your own research. Out of like 100 people that take the vaccine only maybe 3 of those are having any sort of serious reaction to it. You may have had it twice but then a variant hits and you can get that. Its a stronger virus so the antibodies might not be as strong against it as it is the non variant. You get sick. You have the same chances as the ones you get as a kid or even the flu vaccine. All those have flaws to but the protection it gives outweigh the risk.
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Let's say you were deemed an essential worker and as a result already had covid twice. You have natural immunity according to the science, and while rare there have been reactions and even deaths from the vaccine. The age group you are in also has around a 99 percent recovery rate from the virus. You also know that if in the rare event you have health complications from the vaccine, the manufacturer or the people who mandate it are immune from any liability. What's the bigger risk? Everyone's health situation is different.
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09-09-2021, 08:21 PM | #40 |
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The Cdc has already said asymptomatic spread is extremely rare and the data coming out of Israel suggests natural immunity is as good or better than vaccinated immunity. Do we trust the science or not? You can't expect people to disregard the science coming out about asymptomatic spread and natural immunity, but believe the science when it comes to the covid vaccine. At that point you're simply choosing what you want to believe in a faith based method instead of scientific method.
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