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View Poll Results: Who's the bigger Gary Stu? | |||
Snake Eyes | 42 | 70.00% | |
Sgt. Slaughter | 15 | 25.00% | |
Super Trooper | 3 | 5.00% | |
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06-25-2021, 11:35 AM | #31 |
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Reminds me of that issue where the guy looked like Chuckles but was actually Snake-Eyes. Or the other way around. Or was it CoCo? He was wearing shades. Coulda been Scarlett. Been a while... Last edited by Mega Convoy; 06-25-2021 at 11:46 AM.. |
06-25-2021, 11:46 AM | #32 |
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06-25-2021, 11:48 AM | #33 |
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Mike from RetroBlasting touched on that during one his panels: https://youtu.be/qxeNh8aO6Kc?t=1206
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06-25-2021, 11:51 AM | #34 |
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07-24-2021, 04:11 PM | #35 |
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The worst thing than a Gary Stu is shaky cam.
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07-24-2021, 04:59 PM | #36 |
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He took some serious licks in issue 31.
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07-24-2021, 05:32 PM | #38 |
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Sarge, definitely. The big giveaway is how in the Serpentor mini-series, everyone just instantly talks of him as this awesome super soldier and loves him. And then he also instantly becomes the total focus of Mindbender as needing his DNA. It's EXACTLY what happened in The Force Awakens with Rey. Snake-Eyes was never written that way. He wasn't given undue attention by all the other characters.
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07-24-2021, 05:59 PM | #39 |
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Based on his file card in '82, Snake Eyes was literally the best right from the get-go, according to other Joes.
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Someone on the team has to be the best. That doesn't make him a Mary Sue. He was still treated like one of the team and not unduly obsessed over by the other characters. He didn't constantly show up every other character and show them how to do their jobs better. The villains weren't constantly saying we need to get our hands on Snake-Eyes while ignoring the other Joes. He wasn't treated like the center of the Joe universe. When Slaughter shows up out of NOWHERE and all those things happen to him, you're dealing with a CLASSIC Mary Sue. Snake-Eyes doesn't fit the definition at all. Again, Mary Sue is NOT simply asking who the strongest or most powerful character is.
You also can't really have a Mary Sue if they're in the franchise from the beginning. The classic trope of a Mary Sue is a character who enters into a PRE-EXISTING franchise and is suddenly more important than all the pre-existing characters. Again, Sarge in season 2 of Sunbow is a QUINTESSENTIAL, TEXTBOOK Mary Sue. Last edited by JediJones; 07-24-2021 at 06:30 PM.. |
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