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03-10-2021, 10:22 PM | #1 |
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No wrong answers here , just convo and seeing where Firefly plays in your Joe verse:
I’ve worked on a few Fireflys and in doing so, I’ve read a lot of history to bring him to life. In doing so, his birthplace has always been classified. I’ve read a few sites who strongly point out he could be French due his father Fighting in French Indochina (Vietnam) which kind of makes sense but so did Snake Eyes Storm Shadow and Stalker. Another hint was his weapon, the French MAT49 which again a character shouldn’t be assumed French off his weapon alone. Example? Snake Eyes Israeli made Uzi. I think it was in America’s Elite comics, (canon?) Firefly went through Ranger school and kicked ass at Fort Benning, in which wouldnt make much sense as a French solider. I’ve always envisioned Firefly as either American or Irish(taught by IRA for explosives and sabotage) So in your Joe verse , where was Firefly from?
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03-10-2021, 10:31 PM | #2 |
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I like what you are saying about him being trained by the IRA, but personally I like him to remain anonymous. To me him not having a known origin gives him more character then if he had one. The mystery of who he really is always gave him more depth in my eyes as he could be anyone, a Joe, a random civilian who got into a bad hobby, or possibly some veteran of many foreign wars who works for Cobra with years of combat experience to his credit but he chooses to stay anonymous.
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03-10-2021, 10:43 PM | #3 |
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In issue 126 of the Marvel comics it says he’s from French Indochina. This is canon to me since the 80s/90s Joe comics are my go to for Joe storyline (mixed with a good dose of Renegades and RoC )
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03-10-2021, 10:46 PM | #4 |
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I like what you are saying about him being trained by the IRA, but personally I like him to remain anonymous. To me him not having a known origin gives him more character then if he had one. The mystery of who he really is always gave him more depth in my eyes as he could be anyone, a Joe, a random civilian who got into a bad hobby, or possibly some veteran of many foreign wars who works for Cobra with years of combat experience to his credit but he chooses to stay anonymous.
So in my Joeveres his identity remains a mystery. I just never bought he was French . Quote:
I thought his father Fought the war and died there? And he was adopted there?
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03-10-2021, 10:49 PM | #5 |
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If I remember correctly, his father was a plantation owner there and an-anti Japanese guerrilla not a real soldier, but he spared the life of a Japanese officer who was a ninja and brought Firefly into the ninja world
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03-10-2021, 11:06 PM | #6 |
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It reads : “a plantation owner and anti-Japanese guerilla in French Indochina”. In being key. Which in reality wasn’t France at all. It was Southeast Asia. A lot of rich history for the imagination here. Outside of that he’s labeled classified. If we consider America’s Elite canon, no Frenchman/IndoChinaman joins the 75th rangers . After ninja school . More so , Firefly would join the FFL .
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03-11-2021, 01:38 AM | #7 |
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I always liked it in the comics that he was a member of the Koga ninja clan. I know some didn't like it but I liked that he kind of did his own thing but had that background.
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03-11-2021, 03:38 AM | #8 |
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I'm fine with him being from Indochina; I'm less fine with him being a frigging ninja.
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03-11-2021, 04:34 AM | #9 |
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To me Firefly is Irish and ex IRA. He would be like the Donald Sutherland character from Backdraft, he would have that mentaility for fire, his reaction would be just this:
Donald 'Shadow' Rimgale : [at Ronald's parole hearing] What about the world, Ronald? What would you like to do to the whole world? Ronald Bartel : Burn it all. Last edited by megatron77; 03-11-2021 at 04:38 AM.. |
03-11-2021, 04:49 AM | #10 |
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For me FIREFLY first graced me in BATTLE Action Force.
At that time we have not truly succumb to GI JOE Only so still had our ACTION FORCE at play in their three way fight Action Force vs Red Shadows and the newly emerging COBRA (CC in fact was Baron ironblood shedding his old skin). Anyway Firefly I always recall was Much better storylined than the GI Joe comics. He went toe to toe with Each branch of Action Force. Plus his love for explosives I am more inclined to think Former Special Air Service. He knew exactly how SAS Force would operate. He was not necessarily English as some notable International By Birth/Nation members of the SAS. So I have always envisioned Firefly being possibly Walloon and possibly the son of Leon Degrelle (Commander of the Waffen SS WALLOON Regt). He joined the Belgium SAS. With them training alongside many Notable European and International Special Forces. which through that got him into "Hereford Hooligans" to sharpen his skills even more. It was during his Military career he started his freelance career and realised moreso he could still do what he loves with a larger profit margin. So after faking his death on an Operation, he was able to become FIREFLY. The Highly Skilled Chap we All Love and know. As aid this is my take as I rather preferred the old "Battle Action Force" Firefly to GI JOE and the Ninja connections *YAWN* |
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