[flash70]

G.I.*JOE needs a new image on the industry. The joes need to be taken seriuosly from the media industry. We don't want a happy go lucky dumb movie. We need something with a serious aspect to all the characters, story, and environments the joes are know for. I am sick and tired of the really bad cartoon treatments and stupid buddy film ideas for the joes. Its gotta be about the character development and how they all tie together in the story and do not forget the cool tech as well. We all love the joe and cobra equipemnt. With all the real tragedies happening now we as a whole (meaning whole world) need something to uplift us from this quagmire. We need hope and faith in this brave new world. We need joe ...G.I.*JOE - A REAL INTERNATIONAL HERO.

'nuff said!

[General Scarlett]

YO JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!


I couldn't agree more........the problem is that the majority of Joe fans seem to wallow in 'panning and pi$$ing' about what G.I. Joe isn't or can't do............

We need to smack them up and then conquer the rest of the world!!!

BOOYAH!!!!

[Shin Densetsu]

I think hasbro should promote cobra as a timeless enemy. The enemy that will always be there. That brings about intertwining storylines, and honestly thats one of the fondest memories of gijoe while I was growing up, that these were more than just mere toys, these were well driven storylines, with characters that young ones can relate to as they age.

As a matter of fact I began to appreciate the characters more as I grew older. Especially Storm Shadow once I got to college.

I think its the good old fashioned intertwining storyline and character depth that can bring kids back once they are done with their video games.

So I agree with the both of you. Its a line I grew up with, and as much as I loved it when I was young, I love it even more now.

*Storm Shadow's origins is one of the best origins I have ever read*

[bluebikerboy1]

i dont 100% understand why they dont market it off of current events. gijoe vs terrorists would be a hit imo. make it more realistic instead of fantasy. of course thats just my fantasy

[General Scarlett]

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Originally Posted by bluebikerboy1

i dont 100% understand why they dont market it off of current events. gijoe vs terrorists would be a hit imo. make it more realistic instead of fantasy. of course thats just my fantasy

It's most likely for the same reason that Superheroes don't 'go in and clean house'........the 'reality' factor just isn't plausible. Besides, the Joes stand a very good chance of being killed (it's a reality), and that's not good marketability.....

And in some ways, it takes focus off the TRUE heroes.......the men and women who are currently and have served in our armed forces............

So go find a vet, and THANK THEM!!!

[Shogi]

Ok, speaking for both sides of the argument of GI Joe Vs Terrorists

One, the share holders of GI Joe or the companies that make movies may have scary memories of the old Spider-man TV show, where Spidey was fighting mob bosses and such. They may (for the first time ever) actually think they need flamboyant, over the top villians. The problem with this is that they will never make villians like that because in making a movie they don't want it too be too cartoony. They probably haven't seen the way to meld the two ideas yet.

Now the other side, This idea would be great! Gen. Scarlett was partly right in her post, a dead Joe can not be marketed. That's why you go the route of John McClaine's bullet proof invisible shield from Die Hard. Sure he may get shot once or so, but it's never fatal and he can still get the bad guy while dealing with the pain. The cartoon did it while still holding a good, real story, why not a movie too? As far as superheroes cleaning house, look at Wolverine in X2, he killed many soldiers invading the x mansion, however this could be considered self defense instead of murder, but wouldn't that be the same argument for GI Joe killing Cobras?

[Shin Densetsu]

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Originally Posted by bluebikerboy1

i dont 100% understand why they dont market it off of current events. gijoe vs terrorists would be a hit imo. make it more realistic instead of fantasy. of course thats just my fantasy

I think it has to do with the fact that the events might hit close to home. War, like religion, is a very divisive issue. Of course you also have to deal with the many parents who will end up saying that hasbro is glorifying the current wars via the gijoe line(weird thing is, even if there isn't a current conflict, some parents and activists still claim the same thing. Hasbro has never glorified any conflict, I've heard about it many times in the past).

The thing is, from the very onset, cobra was labeled as a terrorist organization. Cobra's purpose was world domination, which I think is a timeless theme in villains for most action figure lines.

The other issue is that, well in my opinion, desert camo is boring. I've felt this way even as a child in the 80's. I'll take grey camo and low viz over sandy desert pink or desert grey colors any day. It works for the Cobra scorpions or Dusty, and the desert NAC, but to have the main cast in desert themed uniforms might be rather bland.

Though I will agree that I'd much rather see realism as a basis, rather than fantasy. However I see this more as realism in weapons and such, not so much the conflict. For example, cobra vehicles were way better when they looked like vehicles, rather than a flying snake head with wings for example.

And in the end, cobra has everything covered. Urban warfare? Alley Vipers. Desert intrusion? Sand Scorpions, desert vipers. Siberian hideout? Snow Serpents. Stealth night infiltration? Night Viper. Ninjas? Ninja vipers and Slice and Dice. Et al. Ecological? Cesspool.

[bluebikerboy1]

i dont see why it would be so bad to do a series with a more realistic angle where gi joes beat the bad terrorists. it might hit close to home but maybe it will give the kids hope that the good guys win or something like that.

[Shogi]

As an afterthought...Is Fox glorifying war with 24? (I wouldn't know as I haven't really watched many episodes, but I know it's a person against terrorists)

[Pus Viper]

The day Hasbro drops "A Real American Hero" in favor of an international "label", Is the day i am done with G.I.Joe.