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10-16-2019, 02:23 AM | #31 |
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to paraphrase: put a unit in an area where there's constant movement of men and machinery and they disappear. Put them in the middle of nowhere and they stick out like a sore thumb.
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10-25-2019, 09:11 PM | #32 |
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The only unknown was what type of helicopter they would use and the speed of said helicopter. I imagine Blackhawks or Chinooks if just carrying personnel.
Yeah I thought of heavy equipment right after I posted. I agree it would be impractical to transport heavy equipment by air. In my current fanfic the Joe team does not have heavy equipment such as tanks, artillery, etc. However they still have light vehicles so those would still need to be transported. I may just have my Joes stationed at the PIT in Utah or some other area with an airfield. Assuming the Utah PIT had an airfield. I was out of Joes altogether at that point in my life (when PIT 3 was introduced that is). |
10-27-2019, 12:03 PM | #33 |
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So essentially Ft Wadsworth is one of the worst locations to house the Joes. |
10-27-2019, 03:36 PM | #34 |
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True. It would also cause an issue with the Joes stuck in traffic (as someone mentioned earlier) not to mention the fact that any heavy equipment (tanks and self-propelled artillery) would need to be hauled on the back of drop deck trailers. I don't think this kind of equipment is just allowed to roam the highways. SO if you had the heavy equipment stationed at MacGuire then you would need the maintenance crews stationed there as well. And I am sure Joes such as Clutch and Cover Girl would spend a lot of their time there as well.
So essentially Ft Wadsworth is one of the worst locations to house the Joes. Governors Island really isnt a good location either. |
10-28-2019, 08:27 AM | #35 |
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So since I never owned any of the Marvel issues that the Captain mentions about the PIT III I was wondering if any of the panels that show aircraft landing if there was a air-traffic control tower shown? If the Joes are super-secretive and are on a base that seems all but empty would they have Air Force personnel to perform air-traffic control, refueling, maintenance, etc on aircraft? Or would the Joes just employ USAF Combat Controllers to assist with landing of aircraft on their base in Utah (much like they would in field conditions)? If so how does the landing strip get maintained? Do they also have engineers to do repairs? Or in the winter time when the strip is covered with snow. Who cleans it?
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10-28-2019, 08:29 AM | #36 |
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It's in the desert so I doubt there'll be snow. I don't have the issues on hand, but from what I remeber there is no landing strip or conventional airport type stuff.
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10-28-2019, 03:41 PM | #37 |
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no there is no air traffic control tower. When the Air Force transports arrive to take the team to Benzheen, they just show up and land en mass in the desert next to the access ramp to the base. Likewise when the Hercules arrives to deliver Snake Eyes, Scarlett, etc. It just flies overhead, loops around and lands and a bunch of Joes drive over to it from where they've been involved in putting the Defiant back on to the crawler with a gigantic crane.
there's no mention of anyone doing air traffic control. Someone may be in the command centre doing it, but we don't see it. |
10-28-2019, 04:43 PM | #38 |
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no there is no air traffic control tower. When the Air Force transports arrive to take the team to Benzheen, they just show up and land en mass in the desert next to the access ramp to the base. Likewise when the Hercules arrives to deliver Snake Eyes, Scarlett, etc. It just flies overhead, loops around and lands and a bunch of Joes drive over to it from where they've been involved in putting the Defiant back on to the crawler with a gigantic crane.
there's no mention of anyone doing air traffic control. Someone may be in the command centre doing it, but we don't see it. IIRC alot of it happened at night too. |
10-29-2019, 03:32 AM | #39 |
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no, the only thing involving an aircraft at night was when the Star-Viper broke in and stole the 'black box' from the shuttle and then escaped with it and launched the Stiletto rocket plane out of a semi-truck. Hollingsworth arrived the following morning in his flying command post; the departure to Benzheen was day time and so was the return from Borovia.
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10-29-2019, 07:36 AM | #40 |
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Had to look it up. It appears most of Utah gets snow except for the far southern valleys. But since there is no landing strip then clearing the runway off would be a moot point. But the Joe team would probably still need Combat Controllers to check the condition of the makeshift landing strip (patch of ground) to determine if it is safe for planes to land and then guide the planes in.
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