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07-16-2019, 02:55 PM | #11 |
Crimson Guard
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Well, the plot requires that they fail consistently, for the sake of the heroes. If you gave me Cobra's resources, I could take over the world lol
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07-17-2019, 09:25 AM | #12 |
Crimson Guard
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Cobra could be stupid but bonaventura is much worse.
Last edited by sevenlima; 07-17-2019 at 10:16 AM.. |
07-17-2019, 09:50 AM | #13 |
Cobra Interrogator
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Cobra is unrealistic to the extent that their plans are nonsense, their costumes are absurd, and they don’t look or act like anything we’d recognize as a terrorist organization. If this were real life they would be defeated instantly merely because they are so high profile. (When was the last time you saw the Joes call in a cruise missile or a B52?)
On the other hand... They are often depicted as having superior technology, limitless resources, and entire cities of followers. No real-life nonstate entity can claim that. So I guess they must be doing SOMETHING right. As others have said, Cobra exists to serve the plot. So their capabilities reflect whatever the plot requires at that particular moment. |
07-17-2019, 12:28 PM | #14 |
Iron Grenadier
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I never really saw Cobra as a terrorist organisation. The commander is a lot more like a classic super villain type, with an island base and an army of masked followers in crazy costumes.
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07-17-2019, 05:08 PM | #15 |
Crimson Guard
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Cobra is various things at various times. It is described in the comics as an "international terrorist organization" and it does draw many of its chief villains from all over the world, but it is also very American. Even once they create their own sovereign nation on Cobra Island, Cobra continues to make its way into the US - and in some ways seems to represent America at its worst. In the '80s and '90s Cobra, as depicted in the comics by Larry Hama was a sort of sci fi fascist version/vision of the U.S. At the same time Cobra tries taking control of various places all over the world. And then it goes very sci fi with all those B.A.T.s and these new Blue ninjas and that kind of thing.
Cobra's military power is represented in such a way as to suggest it has a larger military than many nation states do. OTOH if you break it down and try to reverse engineer Cobra based on the things they show us, it would seem that Cobra (at least its military) is a lot smaller than you'd think. There can't be thousands, or even hundreds, of all the different troop types that Cobra has supposedly trained an equipped. So Cobra doesn't make a lot of sense. But nor does G.I.Joe. A US "special operations" unit that includes its own armor, fixed wing aircraft, and even its own aircraft carrier? An organization that numbers in the low three figures - about the size of a company but disposes dozens and dozens of different vehicles? At the very least it would require a several hundred strong support unit - auxillia we never really see or meet. The G.I.Joe team allows Snake Eyes to continue on the team even after he loses his ability to speak? The Joes tolerate him going rogue again and again just because he's that badass enough of a guy? This is all great fun, but this isn't realistic. And some of us, myself included, like more realism in our Joeverses. But realism isn't what makes G.I.Joe or Cobra cool or interesting. |
07-17-2019, 11:30 PM | #16 |
Cobra Interrogator
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And the same goes for the Joes. They are clandestine direct action or the entire US military depending on what the plot du jour requires. I usually imagine Cobra as being something like ISIS, in that they are a coordinated terrorist insurgency with aspirations of statehood. (FWIW, this is the same debate the real world military has been having since 2001, as organizations like ISIS and the Taliban blur the lines between criminal, terrorist, and insurgent.) Last edited by solosam; 07-17-2019 at 11:33 PM.. |
07-18-2019, 02:26 AM | #17 |
Cobra Soldier
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If you only watch the cartoon you'd think they were a bunch of buffoons but if you read some of the comics, HOOO LAWD, thems some beaucoup dangerous folks!
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07-18-2019, 05:20 AM | #18 |
Crimson Guard
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In the comics wasn’t Cobra Commander a used car salesmen? That would explain a lot.
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07-18-2019, 07:36 PM | #19 |
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07-18-2019, 08:12 PM | #20 |
Crimson Guard
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